Seriously....

[Fleur]

In tribute to the dearly departed Laura, I herby declare that in this thread, only seriousness about HP is allowed!

I just thought I'd get this out before any threads on toilet paper started. In all seriousness.


So question 1:

Will Draco have the strength and the erm, humanity to go to the good side? Or will he take the easy path and follow his father into darkness?

If that wasn't serious what is?

[Marigold]

Thats a good one!

It would be quite the twist if somewhere along the line Draco helps Harry with his fight against Voldemort and shows a glimmer of good, to show that he will not turn out like his bad father.

[Kristin]

I think Draco's going to stay a baddie. But he will still have more good in him than Lucius.

[Anarie]

Draco was sorted to Slytherin, what else can be said here? I think even if he ever will do something good for other people, like helping Harry for example, still he'll do it for his own good. It's like when many suporters of Voldemort, turned against him, it was only because they saw that he's loosing, and they were afraid for their skin.

[Fleur]

Yeah. I've just read so many fan fics about Draco turning 'good' that the idea has kinda stuck. But he is pretty darn evil.

eeeeew once i read a fan fic where harry became a girl and went out with Draco! Bizzare!

[Remus]

:eek: That's really odd . . .

I agree with pretty much what everyone else has been saying. I doubt that Draco will follow his father right into the darkside, but he definitely won't turn totally good either, he's a bit too selfish for that.

[Fleurdelacour]

Poor Laura. I wonder if she'll ever be aloud to return?...

Draco is too cunnnig and sly to be good! It'd be wrong, against everything, it'd be like some cheesy movie where everything is right in then end!

[BloodFire's Mum]

I am posting this to clear somethings up.
First--This is not Imladris so no one has been banned yet.
Laura is totally welcome to come and post here as is any one who is willing to follow the rules Maz, Melkor, and Deagol the founders.
So anybody who has Laura's e-mail or Aim etc. please let her know of the existence of this place.

[Swendula]

I hope someone can contact her!

I really haven't read the books in a while, I don't think I remember enough to hold a serious conversation :eek: ;)

[Moxie]

Originally posted by Anarie
Draco was sorted to Slytherin, what else can be said here?

I don't think ambition and cunning necessarily equal evil; I'm hoping Rowling will eventually show us at least one example of a Slytherin applying his/her House's virtues to good ends. (Snape may or may not be this example - time and three more books will tell.) As for Draco, though, he seems all too willing to follow in his father's nasty footsteps. I don't think Draco is likely to change sides unless Voldemort does something to drive him away, and I've come up with the theory that the only event that could cause this would be if Voldemort, for whatever reason, harmed (or ordered others to harm) Narcissa Malfoy - based on Draco's reactions in GoF, I think his mom is the only person he really cares about.

[Pilgrim Grey]

Well, wasn't Lily supposed to be in Slytherin? I can't remember if that rumour was debunked or not, but if she was then she was definitely an example of a bad witch gone good, which of course opens up ALL SORTS of possibilities about why Voldie went after the Potters... actually, wait, no it doesn't, he was after Harry, wasn't he, oh well, never mind then

EDIt: Oh, and why was Laura banned at Imladris?

[Fleurdelacour]

I talk to Laura all the time. She will be back (if she wants to mind you.)

Can't remember Pilgrim Grey... So long ago...


I thought Lily was a Gryffindor, jkr said they all were.

[Cedric]

Wait wait wait, didn't Laura leave a long, long time ago or did she just stop posting in the MI? Seems like the last time I saw her was like a year ago... I'm confused.

He'll stay bad, unless he's in trouble, in which I think he'll try to be nice, but it won't be anything that'll last.

-Cedric

[Monkfish]

I a recent Harry Potter TV Special, JKR said that in one of the last books, a main character would DIE!

:jawdrop:

Anybody else heard this rumour and who do you think it might be?

[Fleurdelacour]

Harry will die.

It can't be a rumour if jkr said it herself.

[Anarie]

:jawdrop: She said Harry will die?!

Maybe he'll revive somehow... like Buffy the Slayer :)

[Monkfish]

When did she say that?

I know she`s hinted that one of the main characters will die, but she always remained mysterious as to which one.

[Monkfish]

Book 5

The working title of the book is Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.
The book is planned for release in 2003.
Hagrid may be reunited with his mother, Fridwulfa, for he says he doesn't know if she is living or dead.
Harry will find that Mrs. Figg and Arabella Figg are the same person, for Dumbledore has said many times that he is safe at 4 Privet Drive.
The Centaurs in the forest weren't talking about Harry's death in the immediate future. Also, they will make a prominent return of some kind.
Lily WAS a Deatheater, but returned to the side of good.
Ron and Hermione are going to get together.
Harry and Cho Chang are going to get together!
The Dark Arts Teacher might be Fleur Delacour -- it is supposed to be a girl, and Fleur says she's trying to get a job at Hogwarts to improve her English.
Another main character is suposed to die~It might be one of the Creeveys.
Professor Lupin makes a comeback.
Hermione becomes a prefect.
We learn more about the Potters' background especially Lily's ~nee Evans~ past.
Harry & Hermione are destined to fall in love even though they may not notice it till the end of their school life at Hogwarts.



Book 6

Unless changed later, the title of the book is rumoured to be Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch.
The torch's green light is both good and evil, killing the bad and healing the good.
The color of Harry's eyes have something to do with the title.
Harry tries to kill Lord Voldemort but does not succeed.
We will see a conflict between Harry & Ron over Hermione.
Ron may be tempted to go over the dark side in order to get rich and get out of the shadow of Harry.



Book 7

The title of the book is rumoured to be Harry Potter and the Fortress of Shadows
Hermione becomes Head Girl.
Harry's eyes play an important part. Remember he has muggle eyes.
Sirius will have his name cleared when Wormtail comes back.
Professor Lupin shows up again with a larger role.
We find out what makes people turn into ghosts after death. JK Rowling admits that the happiest people do not become ghosts.
Harry will kill Voldemort.
Some sort of romance involving Professor Snape.
Harry and Malfoy team up to fight Voldemort.
One of Harry's classmates becomes a teacher at Hogwarts -- could it be Neville?
Peter Pettigrew makes a return appearance.
Harry will not become a "Animagus" like his father.
The last word of the book is said to be "scar".

In a few years time I would love to see how accurate this is!:)

[Kristin]

Where did you get all that info? :confused: The Green Flame Torch rumor has been around a long time and has been debunked. Also, since Lily was muggle-born, it is impossible that she would be a Deatheater. :rolleyes:

But a few other things (such as Hermione being a prefect, Lupin reappearing) do seem to be true. :)

[Monkfish]

I`m a right little internet scavanger.:D

[Fleurdelacour]

It's my opinion that Harry will die. But if jkr wants to get away from harry potter for ever and continue with other books, then she'll have to kill him off. Actors (in soaps) do it all the time ;) Look at Martine McCluction! From lovey Tiffiany Mitchell in Eastenders, to a West End star and Liza Minnellie's braidsmaid, and starring in a film with Hugh Grant! Pretty good, so she'll kill him off for those reasons probs.

He'll sacrifice himself for the good of the world, his death will make Voldie die.

I couldn't bare it if Ron or Hermione died! We've grown to adore these characters, love them so much. How distraught would be be if a character (like my Weasleys and Hermione!) were to die?!
:eek: :(

[ElfTBD]

I think Draco may be a mini-Snape...not totally bad, but not really great either...maybe Draco will have one of those moments where he really has to choose between bad and good...*shrug*

One thing I would like to see is Sirius getting his name cleared so Harry can live with him...:)

[Monkfish]

:)

[Remus]

Originally posted by FleurD
How distraught would be be if a character (like my Weasleys and Hermione!) were to die?!

If she gets rid of either Lupin (like she's rumoured to do) or Sirius I'd be devestated. Plus, Sirius needs to have his name cleared in some sort of twis no doubt.

As for Harry dieing, I'm still not quite sure. In some ways it'd be interesting to see a main character die like that, but it'd be so depressing to end the series like that.

[Fleur]

Originally posted by Pilgrim Grey
Well, wasn't Lily supposed to be in Slytherin? I can't remember if that rumour was debunked or not, but if she was then she was definitely an example of a bad witch gone good, which of course opens up ALL SORTS of possibilities about why Voldie went after the Potters... actually, wait, no it doesn't, he was after Harry, wasn't he, oh well, never mind then

No it does even more than that! It EXPLAINS the reason Voldy WASN'T going to kill her, just James and Harry! Remember!?

But anyways yes JK did say she was a Gryffindor! lol.

Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch just sounds too lame to be true.

Maybe The Famous Three will finnaly come to accept Sirius as one of the good guys because he sacrifices himself for them.

Harry will die. He has to. OR, he will die at the end of book five and then come back ala Buffy and then he tries to brign back his parents in book 6 but it doesn't work and he goes mad and destroys the world

[Remus]

Wow, Harry going mad and destroying the world makes far more sense.

Why didn't I think of that ?

[Fleur]

Is that Sarcasm I hear in your voice??? Because, you know, that would be classed as Non Serious and you will be thrown out of this thread!

lol.

It's a perfectly good suggestion, actually. One I am quite favouring at the moment....

[one.elven.girl]

Originally posted by Fleurdelacour
Draco is too cunnnig and sly to be good! It'd be wrong, against everything, it'd be like some cheesy movie where everything is right in then end!

It would. And it would be, or so it seems to me,, that that would be very unlike Ms. Rowling. She doesn't seem to be one for happy endings, otherwise, why would Harry go back to the Dursleys every year? And why would Cedric have died?

[Sars]

A drumroll begins in the background of the 'Seriously' thread, with a bang (or rather slight fizzle) a familiar (well, to a few of you) figure sweeps back into the dear HP section of The Council, in her hand she is brandishing a rulebook.

I read! I comprehend! And... wow! Look at all these new smilies!

:cool: :swoon: :notworthy

Sorry, I feel like I've managed to ruin the ambiance of a thread created in my very own departed honor. But I thought it only fitting for my first post.

So to get us back on track:

Seriously?! (yes, yes, bad pun on thread name, bite me) she kills of Sirius or Remus? I'll be devestated. I'll die. Their deaths would cause some serious ramifications among the group dynamic of the trio.

Yeah, check out my long words.

[Monkfish]

Howdy!

[BloodFire's Mum]

Originally posted by Sars
A drumroll begins in the background of the 'Seriously' thread, with a bang (or rather slight fizzle) a familiar (well, to a few of you) figure sweeps back into the dear HP section of The Council, in her hand she is brandishing a rulebook.

I read! I comprehend! And... wow! Look at all these new smilies!

:cool: :swoon: :notworthy

Sorry, I feel like I've managed to ruin the ambiance of a thread created in my very own departed honor. But I thought it only fitting for my first post.

So to get us back on track:

Seriously?! (yes, yes, bad pun on thread name, bite me) she kills of Sirius or Remus? I'll be devestated. I'll die. Their deaths would cause some serious ramifications among the group dynamic of the trio.

Yeah, check out my long words.


WELCOME BACK!


shall I toss Remus for being unserious?
;)
or should that be Un Sirius?

[Colli]

BH, right??? :confused:

I joined after you left, but enjoyed reading your posts. :)

Welcome back!

[Sars]

Thanks and thanks! I read a few of your posts still after I left Colli, so I like to think I know you a bit.



shall I toss Remus for being unserious?

or should that be Un Sirius?

Oh the puns, the puns. :D

[Fleur]

Hey Laura!

Like, the biggest hug EVER

Anyways. Sirius.

;)

Getting old? Yeah, i think so too

It would be, to put in it Famous five words, Awfullly Horrid if one of them died! They are the coolest!

I don't think JK will kill them off though. She loves them too much....

But then, she said it would be really hard to write...

ahghghghgh

[Sars]

Nice to see you too Dom. :D

...

But, like, anyone but Remus or Sirius. Kill off Dumbledore, I'm not attached to him. He's just some old guy in strange clothes. But Remus and Sirius, it would be the death of me.

Oh she so will kill them off now just to spite me.

I'd mourn them in black clothes and everything, for a week.

[Fleur]

Me too! We could have one of thoses Jewish things.. a wake. Although I'm not Jewish. Could be a problem.

Characters OK to die
Harry
Dudley
Fudge


Characters NOT OK to die
Sirius
Remus
Fred and George!
Ron
Draco
Snape

Does anyone else feel sorry for Hermione? Nobody likes her best of the three, and she is always forgotten.

[amrael]

Hey Fleur! I DO like Hermione best of the three!:D

[Colli]

Excuse me she's not killing off my Snape right when he gets interesting! :swoon:

I'm still thinking Hagrid. :( Or Lupin. :(

And I like Hermione best of the three also. :D :p

[ElfTBD]

I like Hermione too...she's a lot like a friend of mine from when I was in Jr. High....but alas, she's not my super favorite character...my most favorite character is Dumbledore, mostly because he's a lot like one of my very best friends...:)

[Monkfish]

Hermoine is GREAT!!!:)

[MerryFlowrOfMay]

Today in class the professor was soliciting responses. I kept raising my hand and answering. Finally, he said, "Someone else, please."

I wanted to go to the bathroom and write "HERMIONE" across my forehead. There's so much of me in her that it's really amazing!

I'm with Colli; Snape must stay around. There's obviously something about him that we don't know yet.

However, Dumbledore must stay too, as he reminds me fondly of many of my favorite professors. LOL

[Sars]

Characters OK to die
Harry
Dudley


Characters NOT OK to die
Sirius
Remus
Fred and George!
Ron
Draco

I'd like to add Fudge to the list of okay people. I loathe him, and I think the Deatheater who performs the act would be doing the world a favour.

I also would like to add Snape to the unkillable list, for some reason he's endeared himself to me over the past few months.

I'm with you Dom, we need a wake. With black clothes and a lot of tissues and everything. And one of those big pictures of the deceased with flowers all around them.

[Seriphus]

I don't want Snape to die, he's by far the best character all the way through, but I've always had the feeling that he won't make it to the end (some heroic sacrifice to save Harry's life or something). Just as people start to like him he'll get killed off.

[ElfTBD]

I agree...Snape needs to stay...

Although, I'll go along with the death of Fudge...he's quite a muggle politician for such a non-muggle world he lives in...:)

[Fleur]

Fudge and Snapes named added above.

Hey Laura, you realise they're not actually dead yet. Right?

;) lol!

But we should so definitely have a wake if they died. It would be SO SAD!

I don't think they will, not yet, anyway. Too much like de ja vu with the whole Harry's parents get killed thing.

[Sars]

Hey Laura, you realise they're not actually dead yet. Right?

*pause*

Heh... oh yeah. I was so caught up in my potential grief. I swear though, if Voldemort kills either Remus or Sirius I will actually hope for Harry to triumph over him in battle. After he's done that of course who cares about what happens to him, as long as he's wreaked vengeance on the murderer!

I really need to remember they're not dead yet. Or they may not even die at all.

...

Maybe she'll work it in with the whole deja-vu-of-death-and-how-he-handles-it thing.

Just as people start to like him he'll get killed off.

I really, really, hope he doesn't. But if he does it will be in some very righteous redemption-esque sort of a way.

[BloodFire's Mum]

We can always have a Wake here.

[Fleur]

Yeah! for every character that dies ( that we love, if it's harry we can have a party) we should have a cyber-wake.

I should really go and finish my English homework :mad:

[Esgaroth]

Oh I am so glad y'all put Draco on that 'not okay' list...I have become very hung up on that character.

Per teh conversation on the first page in regards to what happens to Draco, *my* two cents worth is that I hope at least he becomes his own person and decides for himself what the right thing to do is...I am not all that concerned if he turns out to be a character that doesnt like Muggles, but just one who decides that going around killing them is perhaps not the best way to live in the world.

Draco seems like the kind of character who could become what is termed in D&D circles as 'chaotic good'. I keep thinking of LaCroix in the 'Forever Knight' series...exceptionally scary and none too willing to side with the hero, but with definite ethics and standards of his own that may or may not be termed as 'good.' Thats kind of where I see Draco landing...

I just keep thinking it would be so predictable and 2-dimensional if Rowlings didn't have Draco go through some changes of his own.

And as also mentioned, I have become influenced by some rather interesting fanfic, a smattering of which is actually quite GOOD.

I guess the thing about fan fic for HP is that half of it is still being written...at least with Tolkien, most of his stuff is already laid out, and there is so much beneath the surface and so much left UNSAID that speculation of what 'could' have happened is easier to fit in.

Writing fanfic for HP it seems is almost playing loose and wild and sets one up for disappointment.

Still, I cherish the thought that Draco will become something more than that 'git who likes to threaten Muggles.'

[Sars]

So far Draco has been a bit token, just the general-constant-childhood-nemesis role. But I hope that something like a Deatheater initiation or Lucius-death-scene develops his character a bit.

But we all still love him. Because, c'mon, he picks on Harry!

[Colli]

Originally posted by Sars
But I hope that something like a Deatheater initiation or Lucius-death-scene develops his character a bit.

Sounds great! Except for that bit about Lucius dying. :p ;)

[Fleur]

Ya'never know! He might just rebel against his dad and come to the good sideof the force!!!!

I hope so. That would be so funny. ANd he's be forced to pair up with Harry to fight the darklord and he could be a traitor and deliver Harry to Voldy at the last moment.

haaahahahaha