The trio et al - Will they be changed? [Archive]

Marigold

09-06-2002, 05:02 PM

I think its a totally daft idea that they are thinking of changing movie Harry Ron and Hermione!

Just because they are 'growing up too fast' is no reason, after all they are growing in the books too.

I think it would spoil the continuation of the movies and you would not be able to bond with the characters again if they're changed!

Colli

09-07-2002, 02:46 AM

I think changing them would be completely ridiculous.

There aren't any scholars out there saying "Sorry, Harry shouldn't have such and such characteristics at that age"

Retarded people!

It would be worse to have completely different actors, indeed. :(

:trout: directors :trout: directors :trout:

Remus

09-07-2002, 03:16 PM

And how could they possibly get rid of Rupert Grint ?!

Kristin

09-07-2002, 06:37 PM

Exactly!

I don't have any attachment to the other two kids, but Rupert Grint was fantastic! He was my favorite part of the movie.

Tika_Veilan

09-10-2002, 10:30 AM

Completely with you it agree. It is impossible to change ACTORS because they already became HEROES. :swoon:

Monkfish

09-10-2002, 12:12 PM

Not heard that one!

All I can say is IMDB show for Prisoner of Azkaban:

Credited cast overview:

Daniel Radcliffe .... Harry Potter
Rupert Grint .... Ron Weasley
Emma Watson (II) .... Hermione Granger
Richard Harris .... Professor Albus Dumbledore
rest of cast listed alphabetically
Robbie Coltrane .... Gamekeeper Rubeus Hagrid
Katharine Nicholson .... Pansy Parkinson

Feawen

09-10-2002, 01:49 PM

I would very much like to see another actor for playing the part of Harry. I hated Dan Radcliffe since I saw the first picture with him - but that of course is my private opinion and does not agree with that of others.

Concerning the other actors: They were okay, and I would not take others. But what if Emma, Rupert and Dan really don't look the right age anymore? What if the films cannot be shot fast enough and they become to old? Would look a bit stupid, a 15-year old Rupert playing 13-year old Ron. Anyway, if they decide to have new actors for one of the following films, we cannot change it.

Anarie

09-11-2002, 06:46 AM

NO, they can't change them! I can't imagine someone other playing Harry's part, or different Ron or Hermione. It'll destroy the whole movie...

Monkfish

09-11-2002, 09:04 AM

It would be like Sean Connery playing Gandalf in ROTK.

:eek:

mallorniphredil

09-11-2002, 09:04 AM

Though I'm not that big a fan of Daniel Radcliffe's acting :D , it would feel weird if they exchanged the trio for some younger actors, in the middle of the series, for example. But if they've really grown 'too old' to look 14 or 15, then....

Monkfish

09-11-2002, 09:15 AM

Current ages of main trio:

Daniel Radcliffe - 13
Rupert Grint - 14
Emma Watson - 12.

This is how old they will actually be while filming Prisoner of Azkaban.

Remember that they were a year younger while filming Camber Of Secrets...........

So, I can see no reason why they cannot continue to use the same trio.

Jennie

09-11-2002, 08:38 PM

The books each cover a year...the movies are each filmed in a year...thus the actors/actresses should be getting older at exactly the right rate! :cool:

amrael

09-11-2002, 08:53 PM

Well, I wouldn't mind getting an actor to play Harry. The other two I can live with, but I'd call Radcliffe's acting poor, and I'm being polite about it.

Besides we've several actors playing James Bond, so maybe it is not so hard to get used to a face change. If they can lay their hands on a really good child actor, then I'm for it. I don't have much faith in Radcliffe being able to handle the Shack scene in PoA.

Or maybe he has learnt to act properly in these months and I get a big surprise...

Bethel

09-12-2002, 11:31 AM

I'd be disappointed if they changed the actors for the future movies. If they did, it'd be like getting to know a new group of kids even though they're supposed to be the ones we already know. Make sense?

But what about movies 5, 6, and 7? The books haven't come out yet, and there isn't a lot of time to wait around while the kids grow up. I hope everything falls into place there!

Besides, in other movies and shows, they almost always hire people in their 20's to play high school kids (even though it doesn't fool anyone!) :p

Monkfish

09-12-2002, 12:14 PM

Oh no!

Luke Perry to play Harry Potter:eek:

Anarie

09-12-2002, 12:30 PM

Yeah, and Tori Spelling to play Hermione :eek: :eek: :eek: . That's really scary...

Bethel

09-12-2002, 09:48 PM

Aaaahhhh!! Harry Potter cannot be overtaken by former stars of Fox's 90's sensation, Beverly Hills, 90210! The horror! :eek:

LOL. Luke Perry as Harry. WOW.

Nah, it'll never happen. These people seem to know what they're doing.

Colli

09-12-2002, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Jennie
The books each cover a year...the movies are each filmed in a year...thus the actors/actresses should be getting older at exactly the right rate! :cool:

There's only one problem with that... we heard a rumor a few months ago that they were going to give the actors a year break in between the 2nd and 3rd movies. :(

Monkfish

09-13-2002, 04:13 AM

:eek:

Rivenlas

09-13-2002, 10:19 PM

I hope not, but you never know. Check out this picture of Harry at thesnitch.co.uk
You may have to scroll down a bit...he's easily taller than his mother.

one.elven.girl

09-14-2002, 03:19 PM

I don't particlarly like Emma or Daniel, but it wouldn't help at all to get different actors. I just wouldn't work. It would really throw it off. They need to have consistency, and they wont if they do that. I do't like the mivies, but that wouldn't make them better, IMHO.

Unless of course they get some one really good, then It would be fine, but they still shouldn't change Ron.

Monkfish

09-14-2002, 04:26 PM

I thought Emma did a brilliant job of playing Hermoine.:)

Remus

09-14-2002, 05:51 PM

No way, she was too wooden, she made me feel quite sick. Daniel, I thought, was a bit like that too. But I think it'd be a bad idea to change them so soon. They probably just need a couple of movies to mature as actors and become more natural as their characters.

I'd just like to add that none of the above applies to Rupert Grint, I thought he was great.

amrael

09-14-2002, 10:40 PM

As long as they don't leave Mr Rickman off, I'm fine. Or Maggie Smith. Or Coltrane.

Grint I liked as well, and Hermione was acceptable for me. As a matter of fact, I found only Harry/Daniel annoying.

Jennie

09-16-2002, 07:11 PM

There's only one problem with that... we heard a rumor a few months ago that they were going to give the actors a year break in between the 2nd and 3rd movies.

Hmmm...I think that would be a bad idea for other reasons...but still, a year's difference shouldn't be TOO bad--some kids grow up faster than others, right? :D

Remus

09-17-2002, 05:08 PM

Plus, as Bethel basically said, soon they're going to run out of books to do the films of, unless JKR manages to get her act together, and quick. So they may have to have a year's break, just to leave more time for the last 3 books to be released.

Bethel

09-21-2002, 12:39 PM

When you think about it, it's practically inevitable that the actors will be changed before the end of the film series. If they're giving the actors a break before films 2 and 3, they're definitely not going to make them work straight though films 3-7. That's a lot of hard work for any actor, especially for kids.

:( I don't really want the actors to change because we're all getting to know the characters through the actor's portrayal of them. If they change, like I said, we'll have to adjust and try and get used to them all over again.

Marigold

09-25-2002, 05:55 PM

I just read somewhere that Dan will be playing Harry in movie 3! So it looks like they will be unchanged for a while.:D

Persephine

09-28-2002, 12:49 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't change the three main characters !!!!!!!! I'll never live through it !!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

elanorh

09-28-2002, 04:15 PM

I would imagine they'll try to keep them as long as they can reasonably (ie, until the characters' ages are too obviously 'wrong,' or if one of the actors/actress becomes unmanageable, etc. etc.) --

But with the exception of *some* of the James Bond movies -- it seems to me that removing the original actors/actresses, even if it means gaining a "better" replacement, usually is advance warning that the franchise is going downhill ....

Plus, targetting 'younger' audiences, the conventional wisdom is that younger kids become more attached to the actors/actresses and therefore, more disturbed if they're replaced. Don't know if it's really true or not ....

Deagol's Bane

09-29-2002, 01:17 PM

I just saw the trailer. They are getting older - Harry in particular (the guy playing Harry, I mean). I'm not really attached to any of the actors, so I wouldn't mind too much if they replaced them. Though, I think it would be kind of awkward, and I do hope that they'll be able to keep everyone.

I don't know the age of the actors or the characters. I would assume that the actors are the right age for the part. And in that case, I don't think they'll need to replace anyone unless something really strange happens.
Actually, I bet the casting crew went so far as to look at family pictures/relatives to see how the kids might grow older (height, weight, face shape, etc).
I think it'll be ok.
... although I am kind of curious to see if they could get someone better for any one in the main trio.

Colli

09-29-2002, 03:21 PM

:( Whether the actors did a good job or not isn't really the point, not for me at least.

It's like watching Friends when they change the actor that played Richard, or (hitting a little closer to home to some of you ;)) changing one of those actors you love so much on Buffy.

Imagine them getting someone new to play Willow?

(On a positive note, Russell Crowe WILL NOT be in the sequel of Gladiator. ;))

It would be really weird having a different Harry. Period.

Persephine

09-30-2002, 05:48 AM

Hm....so if Dan grows out of looking like Harry, bye bye to him ??? :( :( :(

ElfTBD

10-01-2002, 12:49 PM

you know, even if they look "older" in later movies, I think it would fit the characters anyway....especially Harry...I mean, think about it, they have quite a lot of responsibility placed on them for young kids, right? (Let's face it, at least in the first four books, they're doing stuff that some *adults* in that world wouldn't do...ie: face Voldemort) So, I don't think it would be that much of a problem if they looked a bit older....

so, I hope they don't change the actors...it would be like if they had changed mark hamil for some other actor for ESB...it would just be wrong!

amrael

10-01-2002, 12:58 PM

it would be like if they had changed mark hamil for some other actor for ESB...it would just be wrong!

but wonderful for the averge acting quality of the SW series. ;)

I'm not convinced. I would much prefer to have a good actor playing Harry even if it means a change in looks than spending a few minutes switching from one mental image to another.

After all, a good actor would become Harry, and not a kid that just looks like Harry, says lines that belong to Harry, and acts like he was carved out of wood.

ElfTBD

10-01-2002, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by amrael
but wonderful for the averge acting quality of the SW series. ;)

:p

I'm not convinced. I would much prefer to have a good actor playing Harry even if it means a change in looks than spending a few minutes switching from one mental image to another.
After all, a good actor would become Harry, and not a kid that just looks like Harry, says lines that belong to Harry, and acts like he was carved out of wood.

IMHO, that's how Harry is though...I mean, growing up the way he did, he would be detached like that....I thought it was brilliant...in the books, he's not really "emotional" either, especially in book 1...I think he gets "healthier" with each book, so therefore, more emotional...

and besides, Dan Radcliffe *is* a really good actor...I've seen him in the BBC/PBS movie of "David Copperfield" and he was amazing in it! (it was funny, because I was sitting there just flipping channels and I saw him and was like, "OMG! It's harry potter!") and he was much younger...

the only one of the trio I had issues with initially was the girl who played Hermione...I thought at the beginning they way they had her acting was a litte too "over the top" Hermione...but she got better as the movie went on....

I do think they got the Weasly's spot on too.... :D

Persephine

10-02-2002, 01:22 AM

But once Harry ( Dan ) continues working as Harry, he'll sooner or later BECOME Harry !!!

Esgaroth

10-03-2002, 11:59 AM

Well, I know that Tom Felton has already announced that he will not play Draco after PoA...which is too bad...he is the perfect Draco...I've never seen anyone with such a perfect sneer. So, as far as changeovers are concerned, that one is already taken care of. I believe he wants to go into a scientific field. Hurrah for him!!:D :D

As per the acting abilities of the trio et al, I thought they all did a marvelous job! I blame the director/direction. Actors can only work with what they are given, and I came away from teh theatre thinking that the movie was choppy and verging on the idea that 'we want to get as much of the original book in as possible, so we will forgo overriding themes for the sake of pleasing the author.'

Not to knock Rowlings, but the lady has it made. They are bending over backwards to honor her...and again I am not saying thats a bad choice, but there were some aspects of the story that could have been a bit stronger. Hermione's statement about cleverness and friendship was practically a wash because everything was so 'technically' and 'literarily' correct.

So I fault the director, not the actors. I agree that Watson was a bit stiff, but I chalk that up to the fact that she had had no theatrical/filming experience, whereas the others did. And with cast members like Harris, Rickman, and Smith, a NON-talented person would not have been able to hold her own. And I think Watson did very well.

And Rupert Grint stole the show! I thought he was hilarious and charming. If he continues his career in acting, he will be a stunner by the time he is an adult.

Persephine

10-04-2002, 07:01 AM

Oh no !!! That means that Draco the mean cool mean cool whatever is gonna be gone ???

* Seph sulks *

Is Rupert Grint gonna stay on as Ron if they let him???

Esgaroth

10-04-2002, 12:10 PM

well I dont know what JKR's plans are for Draco (although I have some desperate hopes...) but the ACTOR, Tom Felton, who plays him, has announced that he'd like to explore other interests, like fisheries (I am assuming a marine/freshwater biology field) and music. So they will have to find someone else to play the part of Draco for Film #4, if they do it.

Which is something of a loss to the film industry. The young man is going to be a heartbreaker.

Well, I'm adding this to the thread as an announcemtn that it is hightly unlikely that I will return for a LOOOOOOONG time to Council of Elrond forums. Melkor has kicked my Playgroup mates and fellow hobbit fanciers in the teeth once too often. We're just not crass enough or 'on topic' enough for him.

So, good bye.

Persephine

10-05-2002, 01:09 AM

Return home soon, Esgaroth...

Deagol's Bane

10-05-2002, 07:12 AM

As I mentioned earlier, I was disappointed by Draco M. I liked him the least of all the cast members in the movie. I will be glad to see him replaced.
(No offence to the guy who played him. He just didn't work for me.)

He's twelve years old (more or less), and he wants to explore his interest in fisheries? Am I even thinking of the right guy?

Persephine

10-06-2002, 04:29 AM

Deagol's Bane~If you're thinking Tom Felton, You're thinking the right guy.

Basically, I think that all the kids did an acceptable job, since they're only kids...And i loved Snape...he was menacing enough. All the adults were perfectly fine !!!

Rosie Gamgee

10-16-2002, 08:52 PM

Well, I imagine if they do movies for books 5, 6 and 7, they will have to change actors. Rowling does not turn out a book per year. Hermione may be able to hang in there, but Daniel and the Ron kid will definitely outgrow the characters before those books are even out.

Boy, it's been a looooooooooong time since I posted on the HP boards here! :D

I could go with the flow on an actor change...just as long as Snape doesn't change! :cool: