How many movies?

[Smeagol]

honestly, how much farther can they go? With POA taking two years to make, it looks like this will be the end of Radcliffe, and trying to convert GOF or the upcoming OOTP into a movie, when they are roughly twice the size of the other movies will be a monumental task. The extar characters (Seamus, Neville, Fred and George) would be evn more shafted then in the second movie.

Plus the fact that they would probably run out of movies to make before she finishes the series!

Call me pessimistic, but I think the line will be drawn at Three.

[lithorose]

Given the popularity of the books and the amount of $ the first two have already made, I think they will definitely try to make all 7(assuming all seven get written:D). How they'll compress the books I don't know, but it'll be interesting to see. The only reason I can see them not making more than one or two more is if the next couple bomb big time. I don't know how well the movies would work with different casts, but they could conceivably be even better than the current cast (though I think it's pretty good). Or could be complete disaster. Still too soon to tell.:(

[Elfëa]

I don't think they make till movie 7 with this cast, but I do think they're going to make 7 movies - if they can. (Considering the lenght of GoF...)

Too soon to tell, I agree :)

[Fleurdelacour]

I hope they don't make anymore... :rolleyes:

They're no passion, at all in these films... None at all... Or none that I know of...

Peter Jackson and Baz Lurhman, they've spent years perfecting their movies, and did it with an obessive passion. Neither are Hollywood Capitalists (unless they know something we dont ;) )

Ugh, it annoys me, why didn't I see this sooner when I heard about the film... :rolleyes: :trout:

[ladylegolas15]

i said to #5

[Bleu Unicorn]

Hmm, how'd I not see this?

Erm [ahem], anyhoo...I think given the immense popularity of the books themselves. And given how well the movies have done thusfar - they'll go all the way to seven.

I disagree with the lack of passion, though I will say that the LOTR films are definitely in a league all their own (the LOTR series is my favorite book, so that's saying a lot). But we are talking about [cough] a WB production. [hides] And I'll be the first to say that when it comes to franchises they've tried to lift off the ground, they have a horrible track record (Superman and Batman come to mind immediately - moreso the latter). And the movies themselves are geared towards a younger audience, so as cliche as it sounds, there isn't as high an expectation.

Anyhoo, back to what I was saying - I really believe they'll make all seven. I don't really doubt that we'll have a different cast (and that comes with it's own horrors/thrills). But I can't see them not "cashing in" on the popularity - it's just money waiting to be given to them!

[Colli]

Excellent thoughts, bleu! That's exactly what I was thinking. :)

[lithorose]

Yeah, and look at how many Batman movies they made, even though the last three stunk big-time:ugh:
I think the movies are pretty good, but do pale in comparison to the books. If it were me, I'd have PJ direct, but keep the set design and costume crew. I think they did a wonderful job:)

[Seriphus]

I hope they don't make anymore...
They're no passion, at all in these films... None at all... Or none that I know of...
Ugh, it annoys me, why didn't I see this sooner when I heard about the film... I totally agree. And I don't think they should have rushed into making them, the book series hasn't even been finished for crying out loud! I'm hoping a new director will breathe some life into them, but I won't be so naïve as to expect them to be great like I did with the first one.
Sorry, rant over

There could actually be more than seven movies if they go ahead with the plan to make two movies for GoF; part one to be released at Thanksgiving and part two to be released at Christmas.

[Rivenlas]

My opinion (and it makes me sad to say it)

Three will be well-attended. It'll set records. Not like CoS or SS, but still. It will follow the downhill trend with the other books, by will still by widely attended by faithfuls. However, my prediction is by the fourth many of the fans will have lost interest unlessJKR has come out with an amazing new book by then. The only thing that may prove this wrong (in my opinion) is if either the third or fourth movie is completely amazing.

[Zippy]

I have been kinda depressed since I first read this thread. I hadn't ever thought about it. I had assumed all movies would be made and the kids wouldn't grow-just to make me happy. But it makes sense that the kids will be too grown before the books are finished. I hope they at least make it to GoF. PLEASE!:(

[ChianaWeasley]

Zippy, someone feels the way I do! I want Radcliffe, Grint, and Emma(cant recall her last name) to do all of the movies, it just wont be the same if its differant kids. I understand the whole time scheme would be off, but it wont be the same if they change them.

It's like when they try to make a sequal to a movie, and they change actors and actresses. It's just not the same!!!!
:eek:
I really hope I get to see Rupert and Emma go at it after the Yule ball, I'm itching to see them do that scene!!! ::fidgets in chair::

May we cross our fingers...

[Pengi]

Originally posted by Fleurdelacour
I hope they don't make anymore... :rolleyes:

They're no passion, at all in these films... None at all... Or none that I know of...

Peter Jackson and Baz Lurhman, they've spent years perfecting their movies, and did it with an obessive passion. Neither are Hollywood Capitalists (unless they know something we dont ;) )

Ugh, it annoys me, why didn't I see this sooner when I heard about the film... :rolleyes: :trout:
I agree with you there, Fleur. To me it seems like they're doing it the way purely to get the most money. I think they'll try and go all the way to the seventh to cash in the most, even if they need to change actors (which I think they will) :( But I can't really see them managing to go on after 3 or 4. The books are just getting too complicated for them to do decently.

[Tàralhachiel]

I really think they're going to push for all 7 though the quality of them probably won't be the best. GoF is going to be obviously a REALLY long movie i'm kind of worried how it'll turn out. SO much of it gonna be left out.

ABout the whole passion issue i'm kind of split. its not like they didnt care AT ALL how the movie was made, but it was obvious money was a real motivation in making the movie

I personally don't think you can compare Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. Well you can but they're just so different, but anyways the LOTR movies where phenomenal. Just spectacular. obviously a lot was left out too but they were just excellent. I think so far the HP movies have been good as well. What bugs me is how they're going to change the actors. it just won't be the same without the original harry, ron and hermione.

[lithorose]

(trying to see the upside in this)

The new actors (assuming they do make the next movies) could be better than Dan, Rupert, and Emma! Don't get me wrong, I like them, but sometimes changes improve things. Then we can debate which actor played the part better, like they do with James Bond, or even *gasp* Batman. We can debate about who the 'definitive' Harry is, etc.

And it would also help break up (for me at least) the visual monopoly the movie has on the story. That probably doesn't make any sense. Let me rephrase it: A movie usually destroys whatever preconceived mental image I had of the characters. By having different actors in the roles, it helps me to separate the book characters from the movie characters.

[Pengi]

Originally posted by lithorose
And it would also help break up (for me at least) the visual monopoly the movie has on the story. That probably doesn't make any sense. Let me rephrase it: A movie usually destroys whatever preconceived mental image I had of the characters. By having different actors in the roles, it helps me to separate the book characters from the movie characters.
*gasp* Excellent point! Destroying mental images was always one of the things I hated about the fact they were making Harry Potter movies. If I was a big fan of the movies (which I'm not) I'd dislike the re-casting, but hopefully this will help people (including myself) to have their own images are Harry and co. Roll on the new actors! :D

[t3h Qster]

Im sure they will try all 7 but I can almost guarentee that the original trio will be done after the third film.........maybe just maybe they would stay on into GoF but I doubt it.....as do many other colleagues of mine

[ChianaWeasley]

They should go until book four.

I must see Rupert and emma argue after the Yule Ball!!

Someone better than Rupert Grint for Ron Weasley?!?

Mental that one, I'm tellin' you
;)
:p
:)
:D

[t3h Qster]

I would like to see rupert and emma in 4 so they can get all wierd about the Viktor thing.......it will be funny (new actors would ruin that)

[Pilgrim Grey]

Hmm, well, upcomingmovies.com have said that GOF and OOTP are definitely going to be made, with a possible release date of 2007 for OOTP :eek: The current cast will DEFINITELY not be around for that long (they'll be way too old) and I think even the book series will have been finished by then, and so the popularity will probably die down a bit, so I can't really see them doing further than that. And besides, WB only have the rights to the first four, and according to upcomingmovies they only bought the rights to OOTP, not the 6th and 7th books (although I'm not sure if you actually CAN have rights to unpublished books)...

[Elwen]

Well, IIRC the latest HP book actually has a note about WB owningthe rights to thye characters etc. So I guess it wouod be a little tricky to sell the rights to someone else.

And concerning the age of the actors: I could totally see them doing the remaining films in back-to-back pairs... so it wouldn't take too long (unless they really start splitting them in two as they are already thinking with PoA :eek:


Anyway - who knows how the actors will change but a 22 year old can get away with playing an 18 year old, I suppose. The question is whether they want to do it, and whether they'll be up to it, acting-wise.




By the way: with word that even PoA will have to be split - what about GoF and OotP? :eek:
What would you cut and where would you split them?
(or is this a topic for another thread?)

Elwen

[Pilgrim Grey]

Elwen, I hadn't heard that they were thinking of splitting up POA into two movies. IMO they don't really need to - there's not THAT much plot to cover that they couldn't condense it down IMO. GOF and OOTP are different matters entirely. GOF (even without SPEW, which I don't think will make it into the film) will probably end after the first task - it's a climactic ending and Harry and Ron's fight gets resolved. OOTP I have no idea about, seeing as it has no real driving story, so there's no real way you can split it up.

[Lord Schaudt]

I said all the way beucase thats what i want, but five will prolly be the last, 4 will be hard and five is getting a little much

[Deagol's Bane]

I want all 7!
I don't care if they aren't as good as I'd like. Nor do I care that much whether they keep the same cast or not. Note: In theory, I would much prefer to see the same actors for all the movies, but in this case, better actors with better chemistry, IMO, would offset the negatives of switching actors, IMO. Perhaps they could just switch out Daniel R. and keep the others (oh, wouldn't that be sad for poor DR).

Anyway, my only hesitation is this: Will WB feature films of all 7 books mean that there will be fewer adaptions done later on by other entertainment makers?
I'd love to see a TV series that could do the books more justice than I feel the movies have done, and I'd like to hear any radio/audio dramas. For that matter, I'd love to see the movies done in a way that I would find more appealing.

The 2.5-3 hour movie seems to me to often be the most constrictive and therefore least fulfilling entertainment medium when it comes to adapting a book.

In short, I have also been a bit disappointed by the movie adaptions, but I still enjoy them and I still want to see all 7 movies.

and yeah it'd be good if they could split a book into 2 (or more!) movies. They lack some of "the passion" b/c so much is left out, IMO.

As long as the movies keep making money (a lot of money), I don't see why they'd stop.

[Monkfish]

Maybe they can do another few films after that.....

When Harry met Hermy
Dirty Harry
The Hippogriff, The Witch & The Wardrobe
Dumb & Dumberer: When Harry met Ron

[River Daughter]

Well, we know now that they didn't split GoF--it's intact. I found GoF really fairly longwinded for the overall plot, and a lot of it had to do with that SPEW nonsense.

[Haldomere Banks]

So, the whole cast makes it to the last movie, except for the seer. What a waste of certainty back there in 2003.

How do I vote for 8 films?

Hjal

[Hugh Kenrick]

That's actually pretty impressive that pretty much everyone made it to the last two films. They've been lucky that some of the older actors are still reasonably healthy, considering cancer and all other ailments that have affected some of them.

[Lanen]

Gosh, Hugh. Who has had cancer out of the cast? :shock: I'm SO out of the loop :redface:

[Amberion]

I think Hugh means they have not got cancer. Unusual considering the % of the general population that gets the diseases

[Haldomere Banks]

honestly, how much farther can they go? With POA taking two years to make, it looks like this will be the end of Radcliffe, and trying to convert GOF or the upcoming OOTP into a movie, when they are roughly twice the size of the other movies will be a monumental task. The extar characters (Seamus, Neville, Fred and George) would be evn more shafted then in the second movie.

Plus the fact that they would probably run out of movies to make before she finishes the series!

Call me pessimistic, but I think the line will be drawn at Three.

I think Smeagol was too pessimistic.

Hjal

[Lanen]

Just a touch! There again, Smeagol always was a downer. The character, not the person who posts here!