She lies! (spoilers, of course)

[Colli]

Thanks to my daughter FleurD for the wonderful idea!

The follow is a list of things Rowling said (in various interviews) we'd find out about in Book 5. Some of them we don't. What do you guys think caused her to lie/change her mind? What role might the stuff play in the future?


In book five, we go into a whole new area, physically, an area you've never seen before, a magical world
Book five will be scary. Harry finds out a lot of things he hasn't stumbled across so far.
In book five (Harry) has to examine exactly what death means, in even closer ways.
We will see Mr. Weasley's car, Aragog, Dobby and the Dementors again.
The Dursleys are in the next book, and there's stuff coming with them that people might not expect.
During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet.
It's very important in the plot that Harry has his mother's eyes, and that her wand was very good for charms.
During an interview for Kids BBC, Victor Greensteet (reporter) asked Rowling if Harry would have a dragon for a pet. This is what she replied: "You can't tame a dragon, no matter what Hagrid thinks. It's simply impossible. So no. He has more common sense. He MAY have a different pet in the future, but for now, I won't say anything else".
In the same interview for Kids BBC, the reporter asked J. K. if Harry had ever used the internet, and this is what she had to say: "No. They (the Dursleys) won't let him go near Dudley's computer, and Dudley is the only one who has a computer. They hit him if he gets too near to the keyboard. So the answer would be No. I use it a lot, but Harry doesn't. Wizards don't really need to go on the web. They have an even better way to find out what's happening in the outside world, which I think is a lot more fun than the Internet, but I'm going to keep quiet on this one."
The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 3 years.
The "Arabella Figg" Dumbledore refers to at the end of book four is indeed the same Mrs. Figg that takes care of Harry for the Dursleys in book one. We'll find out all about her.
There will be a new sorting hat song.
Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.
We'll meet the real 'Mad-Eye' Moody in book five, and we'll like him even more than the fake Moody.
Harry will have to deal with a venemous, disgruntled house-elf.
We will find out why Voldemort killed Lily and James Potter.
Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.
There will be a female Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher with a personality like poisoned honey.
We'll see Lupin in Book Five. Yes, we will see a lot of old characters in Book Five.
Ginny Weasley will play more of a role in book five.
One of the main characters, one of Harry's "fans" will die (not Ron or Hermione). The death will be "horrible to write."

#1) Is the new world supposed to be the Ministry of Magic and St Mungo's? Or just the outside world in general?

#4) We didn't see Mr Weasley's car OR Aragog.. both things in the forest. Maybe they were supposed to have something to do with Hagrid's brother and/or the centaurs?

#6) I assume she means the Room of Importance (oy, was that it's name?)... but what does she mean "Harry's been there before"? When do you think this was?

#7) Lily's eyes. Her wand for charms work. Neither of which had anything to do with the plot.

#13) Their profession wasn't even given!!!! Dumbledore was supposed to tell Harry EVERYTHING!

#17) Something "HUGE"? I don't think so. :p


Maybe a new thread wasn't necessary, I dunno. But I need to vent that I WANTED to know some of this stuff and got ripped off!!!

Anyway, if this thread is unncessary it'll fall into the void soon enough. ;)

[Fleurdelacour]

Originally posted by Colli

#6) I assume she means the Room of Importance (oy, was that it's name?)... but what does she mean "Harry's been there before"? When do you think this was?


#13) Their profession wasn't even given!!!! Dumbledore was supposed to tell Harry EVERYTHING!


Yeah the Room of Importance... I was thinking of the room the Mirror of Erised was...

Weren't they Aurours and in the Order of Phoenix, or did I miss something out, some crazy old man like Mundungous Flechter started to talk to me on the bus...

Whooho! I had a wonderful idea! :D Cheers! (another Weasley ism!)

[Colli]

Were they Aurors? I don't remember that. Hmm.

But I'd hardly call being in a secret Order a profession...

Hmm. I'm due to reread, anyway. ;)


(edit) The room the Mirror was in.. that might be right. I'll have to read TSS again and see where Harry was when he found it...

[ChianaWeasley]

I think Rowling kind of gave us the wrong idea on purpose, I know I'd make up things to throw people off. She probably didnt want to spoil everything for her anxious readers.

[Colli]

I don't know about that Chiana... from the interviews she's given, she really seems to value her readers' intelligence. I don't think she'd purposefully feed us lies to keep us on our toes, but I AM surprised that Book 5 changed so much over the course of the 3 years.

[lithorose]

Do you think any of it has to do with the major rewrite she had to do to the second half of OOTP? I can't see her giving false information, she seems to like giving cryptic or misleading statements though.

Hopefully we'll learn some of the unanswered stuff in book 6, Like stuff about Harry's parents.

[alqua]

#6) I assume she means the Room of Importance (oy, was that it's name?)... but what does she mean "Harry's been there before"? When do you think this was?

hem, hem (couldn't resist :D )

I think it's called the Room of Requirement. I can't for the life of me remember the occassion where Harry'd been there before, but I can't think of any other room that she might be referring to either.

[Colli]

LOL, thanks alqua. I was feeling too lazy to get my book. ;)

REALLY wanted to know about Snape and about Harry's family (not just his parents) though. Sigh. :(

[ChianaWeasley]

Hmm....maybe im just off, but if I were her I'd would keep people on their toes. If they made me do interview and give hints, I'd surely give the wrong one.

Im so mean.....shrugs

;) :D :cool:

[PhoenixSong1031]

I'm not sure if I'm at all on target with this or not but I think that when JKR changed the end that it had affected the statements she had previously released - as lithorose had previously mentioned.

I'm not sure that JKR intended to put all of those things that you listed Colli, in book five in the first place. She says on some of them that "in book five, we will...", etc. Does she say that with all of them - or does she simply mean by we'll find out by the end of the series?? :confused:

~Phoenix

[Colli]

From what I remember from reading all of the interviews, the majority of it she said "Yeah, we'll see that in the next one." Not every time, I don't think. But most times. :(


And grr... Dumbledore's "Sit down Harry, I'm gonna tell you everything" SURE WAS misleading!

::fumes::

[lithorose]

What, you didn't think JKR would let ALL her secrets out in book 5? There'd be no drama left for the last two books!

Although, I think it was interesting that he was merely admitting to his mistakes, rather than hitting us with some new profound stuff we didn't know that would change everything we thought we understood.

[alqua]

There'd be no drama left for the last two books!

Yeah, just the minor annoyance of Voldemort trying to kill Harry and take over the world. ;)

[ChianaWeasley]

Wow has anyone here every watched 'Kids In The Hall'?

Well there's this one sketch when these zombies are chasing a couple. But they're very slow and...well not very into their job. They "chase" them into a warehouse, the frantic couple push things in the zombies way. Well they stop look at each other, simply push it out of the way a walk after the couple. I just thought of Harry and Voldemort in that way.

Harry(frantic couple)
Voldemort(the unenthusiastic zombie)

H: Ah! Stay away from me! You killed my parents!
V: incoherent mumbling
H:no stop
Voldemort walks behind Harry poking him with his wand
V:I'll get you yet Harry Potter...yawn
H:No! Someone anyone help me!
Dumbledore shows up and hits Voldemort with a curse
D:Ah, thats better isn't it Harry?
H:Wow thanks Dumbledore I dont know what I would have done if you hadn't shown up.

fin.
;) :rolleyes: :p :D

[t3h Qster]

Originally posted by Colli


In book five, we go into a whole new area, physically, an area you've never seen before, a magical world
Book five will be scary. Harry finds out a lot of things he hasn't stumbled across so far.
In book five (Harry) has to examine exactly what death means, in even closer ways.
We will see Mr. Weasley's car, Aragog, Dobby and the Dementors again.
The Dursleys are in the next book, and there's stuff coming with them that people might not expect.
During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet.
It's very important in the plot that Harry has his mother's eyes, and that her wand was very good for charms.
During an interview for Kids BBC, Victor Greensteet (reporter) asked Rowling if Harry would have a dragon for a pet. This is what she replied: "You can't tame a dragon, no matter what Hagrid thinks. It's simply impossible. So no. He has more common sense. He MAY have a different pet in the future, but for now, I won't say anything else".
In the same interview for Kids BBC, the reporter asked J. K. if Harry had ever used the internet, and this is what she had to say: "No. They (the Dursleys) won't let him go near Dudley's computer, and Dudley is the only one who has a computer. They hit him if he gets too near to the keyboard. So the answer would be No. I use it a lot, but Harry doesn't. Wizards don't really need to go on the web. They have an even better way to find out what's happening in the outside world, which I think is a lot more fun than the Internet, but I'm going to keep quiet on this one."
The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 3 years.
The "Arabella Figg" Dumbledore refers to at the end of book four is indeed the same Mrs. Figg that takes care of Harry for the Dursleys in book one. We'll find out all about her.
There will be a new sorting hat song.
Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.
We'll meet the real 'Mad-Eye' Moody in book five, and we'll like him even more than the fake Moody.
Harry will have to deal with a venemous, disgruntled house-elf.
We will find out why Voldemort killed Lily and James Potter.
Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.
There will be a female Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher with a personality like poisoned honey.
We'll see Lupin in Book Five. Yes, we will see a lot of old characters in Book Five.
Ginny Weasley will play more of a role in book five.
One of the main characters, one of Harry's "fans" will die (not Ron or Hermione). The death will be "horrible to write."




1-Im sure the new buildings are what was meant by that
2-scary? hardly.....more like suspenseful
3-yes, having to see his godfather die
4-dementors and dobby that was it
5-dudley a hoodlum? that struck me!
6-room of requirement was what it was called in US books
7-ok the eyes? how so.....and harry is good with charms so that was hereditary
8-hedwig, no new pet...
9-internet vs magic......tough call
10-yes it is very hard for him to make some of the choices he has to but with age comes responsibilty
11-she was only in it for like 2 seconds.....we found out nil.....cept she is a aSquibb
12-indeed
13-they were order members, but their exact title, like Auror is not mentioned
14-yes the real moody, rocks.....threatened Vernon and all :notworthy
15-kreacher....well I would strangle him but in some small way it was kreacher who helped attribute to sirius' death
16-not really, they were order members, but they did give birth to a child who fit the prophecy
17-not really huge, just that she didnt like James at first
18-Umbridge=character I have hated the most
19-he was there, I liked him still but his roll was about as big as tonks+moody
20-yep
21-sirius was not a fan of harrys (if that was what fan meant) but it was rough to read, it was so abrupt, when hermione got hit I dropped my book (since she is my fav character)

[jesuisalleeaujardin]

she said she we would see these things?! then yes! she lied! hahaha... and we fell for it... ahhhh. ...



In book five, we go into a whole new area, physically, an area you've never seen before, a magical world

--> yep, the ministry of magic! :clap:

Book five will be scary. Harry finds out a lot of things he hasn't stumbled across so far.

--> well, we're bound to know that as he's 15 this years, going on 16, and lotsa crazy things happen at that age. but i didn't expect the prophecy!!! :-(

In book five (Harry) has to examine exactly what death means, in even closer ways.

--> yep, we saw her kill off sirius! :mad:

We will see Mr. Weasley's car, Aragog, Dobby and the Dementors again.

--> nope! we did see dobby, but i think no sign of dementors _ which is pretty interesting, coz when sirius was out, the ministry of magic had dementors at every block of the magical world! kinna like... security and sept. 11 :-( . ...

The Dursleys are in the next book, and there's stuff coming with them that people might not expect.

--> yep _ especially that bit about aunt petunia knowing about dementors, that was interesting _ you'd wonder how she could not know about these things seeing she had a sister who went to hogwarts. ...

During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet.

--> i have to reread the books _ trying to muster the courage to; i don't think i can deal with the fact that i meet a character who dies off next year! :-( _ so i'm not sure if harry's encountered the room of requirement before... or if rowling has introduced us to that room before. ...

It's very important in the plot that Harry has his mother's eyes, and that her wand was very good for charms.

--> i still don't see the point of mentioning that _ maybe to reinforce the fact that harry is not his father, and that everyone around him, especially sirius, knows this. ... but the wand for charms, i can understand as with the skirmish at the department of mysteries. ...

During an interview for Kids BBC, Victor Greensteet (reporter) asked Rowling if Harry would have a dragon for a pet. This is what she replied: "You can't tame a dragon, no matter what Hagrid thinks. It's simply impossible. So no. He has more common sense. He MAY have a different pet in the future, but for now, I won't say anything else".

--> no new pet showing up on the horizon yet _ hedwig got injured, that's all... for now... don't see the point of killing off hedwig, anyways! haha... but ya, owls don't live as long as humans, i suppose... if rowling is talking about harry getting old or something. ...

In the same interview for Kids BBC, the reporter asked J. K. if Harry had ever used the internet, and this is what she had to say: "No. They (the Dursleys) won't let him go near Dudley's computer, and Dudley is the only one who has a computer. They hit him if he gets too near to the keyboard. So the answer would be No. I use it a lot, but Harry doesn't. Wizards don't really need to go on the web. They have an even better way to find out what's happening in the outside world, which I think is a lot more fun than the Internet, but I'm going to keep quiet on this one."

--> i want to know how the order of the phoenix communicates without being caught! dumbledore never mentions this to harry.

The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 3 years.

--> oooooh love this sentence _ "what's right and what's easy" _ :swoon: _ isn't that what life is all about? :LOL: dramatic, catchy, real. ...

The "Arabella Figg" Dumbledore refers to at the end of book four is indeed the same Mrs. Figg that takes care of Harry for the Dursleys in book one. We'll find out all about her.

--> we sure have! hahaha. ...

There will be a new sorting hat song.

--> ya. ...

Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.

--> rowling didn't mention what their jobs were. but if they've faced voldemort three times before, not only do they belong to the order of the phoenix, they prolly also are aurors... was that mentioned in the previous books? i have to reread. ...

We'll meet the real 'Mad-Eye' Moody in book five, and we'll like him even more than the fake Moody.

--> ya! definitely like him more here _ especially when he nonchalantly just pops out and washes that crazy eye of his, :LOL: . ...

Harry will have to deal with a venemous, disgruntled house-elf.

--> kreacher... is interesting. he sounds like he's gone mad. can't blame sirius for hating being back in his mother's house, but ya, he could have treated him with more niceness. he's just like snape, i tell ya _ they both have long memories :-). ...

We will find out why Voldemort killed Lily and James Potter.

--> no, we did not! well, maybe the big V just wanted to kill them all, even then, 16 years ago, so he could get all the power he could, and the potters' son just happened to... live.

Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.

--> umm, no _ the huge thing i learned about lily potter was that she had thick brick red hair, almond green eyes _ making me think she has irish blood, haha... but if it was about how she hated james' guts and how she tried to save snape's bootay from being bullied further by james... then ya... but we all know she's muggle-born already... i think i kinna already know that it was her love and her blood that saved harry... but still _ there must be something else that saved him, something as magical as harry's and V's wands meeting at the end of book 4 and the memories of those that were killed by V's wand came back. if all that saved harry was love, then the battle is over, right now. we know who already won. we just have to kill off the being that is V :-). ...

There will be a female Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher with a personality like poisoned honey.

--> umm well, that's even how the book jacket described professor umbridge ;-). ...

We'll see Lupin in Book Five. Yes, we will see a lot of old characters in Book Five.

--> and i wish we could see more of him and wormy in book five as well! want them to talk about the old days. want him and harry to talk about the old days. want to see him and snape work together :-). ...

Ginny Weasley will play more of a role in book five.

--> ya _ she was the one who put harry in place when he wanted to know what it felt like to be possessed :clap: . ... you go gurl! :-)

One of the main characters, one of Harry's "fans" will die (not Ron or Hermione). The death will be "horrible to write."

--> umm, no. sirius died. it doesn't look like any of the other kids will die next. what i think was horrible to write for rowling are the last 60 pages or so _ making clear who did what according to how dumbledore saw it. i'm rereading that chapter now, and it's just painful, mind-boggling prose... reminds me of the musings of descarte, sartre or kant, haha :LOL: . ...

one other thing i think we're overlooking is that hermione seems sharper in this book _ still making mistakes (with the centaurs), still vulnerable (need to improve her reflexes especially with that slashing curse in the department of mysteries). but i think she's become as sharp with real life situations as ron is with chess _ both brilliant strategists, i say! :clap:

jardin

[t3h Qster]

rememeber the mirror Sirius gave harry in the end of OotP perhaps like that using those enchanted mirrors........and besides there is always fawkes

:)

[Master Samwise]

You know the paragraphs that were released before it was published? About 5 chapter still to go, and I was beginning to have a horrible suspicion that one of them was going to be used as the last in the book! :o

Fortunately I was wrong :D

[Marchwarden]

I think the HUGE thing we learn about Lily is either a) that her sacrifice continues to protect him through her bloodline, thus finally explaining why Albus dumped him with the Dursleys, or else b) that through most of the time she spent at Hogwarts, she absolutely hated James Potter.

[Kristin]

Welcome, Marchwarden! :D

Good theories on what it could be. I don't find those things particularly "huge," though, so I hope that we haven't finished learning about Lily (or James for that matter). I feel like their story is still incomplete.

[Lord Schaudt]

My personal take on all these feel free to skip

In book five, we go into a whole new area, physically, an area you've never seen before, a magical world

Probably The ministry and st mungos, becuase in the ministry we get a idea of just how complex the wizarding world really is and st mungos shows us that they can and will just use any old building

Book five will be scary. Harry finds out a lot of things he hasn't stumbled across so far.

Blah he just learns more about life

In book five (Harry) has to examine exactly what death means, in even closer ways.

Point?

We will see Mr. Weasley's car, Aragog, Dobby and the Dementors again.

Doesn't specify which book but, they do mention Aragog once

The Dursleys are in the next book, and there's stuff coming with them that people might not expect.

Well of course there in the next book, and yes theres lots of new stuff, mainly that Petunia Dursley is facinated enough by magic to remeber one little comment about dementors her entire life, maybe she supresses a fascenation about it cuz she can't do magic

During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet.

Who cares?

It's very important in the plot that Harry has his mother's eyes, and that her wand was very good for charms.

I read importance into this i see many have missed, his mothers eyes are about the only diffrence physical between him and his father, which is sort of helping Sirius think harry should be just like his dad and Snape hate harry like he hated his dad. the wand, well maybe she could have stopped James harassing Snivellus if she wanted to

During an interview for Kids BBC, Victor Greensteet (reporter) asked Rowling if Harry would have a dragon for a pet. This is what she replied: "You can't tame a dragon, no matter what Hagrid thinks. It's simply impossible. So no. He has more common sense. He MAY have a different pet in the future, but for now, I won't say anything else".

Beaky, who else would take care of sirius's hippogriph

In the same interview for Kids BBC, the reporter asked J. K. if Harry had ever used the internet, and this is what she had to say: "No. They (the Dursleys) won't let him go near Dudley's computer, and Dudley is the only one who has a computer. They hit him if he gets too near to the keyboard. So the answer would be No. I use it a lot, but Harry doesn't. Wizards don't really need to go on the web. They have an even better way to find out what's happening in the outside world, which I think is a lot more fun than the Internet, but I'm going to keep quiet on this one."

La de da, its called Phoniex mail i guess

The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 3 years.

whats new, its the same as in everybook, hero has choice, does whats harder

The "Arabella Figg" Dumbledore refers to at the end of book four is indeed the same Mrs. Figg that takes care of Harry for the Dursleys in book one. We'll find out all about her.

Lordy me i never thought!

There will be a new sorting hat song.

Correct me if im wrong but isn't there a new one every year? i think she meant a new theme anywho

Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.

Yes there profession was that of OoTP, and the fact that they were in it kinda is important

We'll meet the real 'Mad-Eye' Moody in book five, and we'll like him even more than the fake Moody.

I like them both but the real one is better

Harry will have to deal with a venemous, disgruntled house-elf.

suprise suprise they all don't like it

We will find out why Voldemort killed Lily and James Potter.

Prophecy. well this one was forshadowed before, after all dumbledore did say that she now had two real prophecy's

Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.

What she hated james?

There will be a female Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher with a personality like poisoned honey.

I would have been cursing Umbridge till she died

We'll see Lupin in Book Five. Yes, we will see a lot of old characters in Book Five.

Lordy me

Ginny Weasley will play more of a role in book five.

Yeah!!!

One of the main characters, one of Harry's "fans" will die (not Ron or Hermione). The death will be "horrible to write."

*sniffle*

[Peregrinning Took]

* In book five, we go into a whole new area, physically, an area you've never seen before, a magical world

--Ministry of Magic and St. Mungo's, as we've already mentioned.

* Book five will be scary. Harry finds out a lot of things he hasn't stumbled across so far.

--Hmmm.....As someone said, suspenseful yes, but I wasn't really scared (just a bit freaked out at some bits, esp. in the beginning and end)

* In book five (Harry) has to examine exactly what death means, in even closer ways.

--Sirius dying, and also Harry's conversation with Nearly Headless Nick.

* We will see Mr. Weasley's car, Aragog, Dobby and the Dementors again.

--Dobby, yes. The car and Aragog, no.

* The Dursleys are in the next book, and there's stuff coming with them that people might not expect.

--Yes, we know that Aunt Petunia knows some stuff about the Wizard World. I wonder where it was that she heard James tell Lily about the dementors?...And what reason could there be for him telling her?

* During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet.

--No idea what this could be. It might not be the Room of Requirement, because I can't think of when Harry's been in something like that (maybe in Book 3 when Hermione shoves him into the cupboard so the past them wouldn't see them? (not sure if that makes sense :p)

* It's very important in the plot that Harry has his mother's eyes, and that her wand was very good for charms.

--As someone else said, maybe it's so people know that even though he looks like James, he isn't James because he has his mother's eyes.

* During an interview for Kids BBC, Victor Greensteet (reporter) asked Rowling if Harry would have a dragon for a pet. This is what she replied: "You can't tame a dragon, no matter what Hagrid thinks. It's simply impossible. So no. He has more common sense. He MAY have a different pet in the future, but for now, I won't say anything else".

--Notice the "may" ;)

* In the same interview for Kids BBC, the reporter asked J. K. if Harry had ever used the internet, and this is what she had to say: "No. They (the Dursleys) won't let him go near Dudley's computer, and Dudley is the only one who has a computer. They hit him if he gets too near to the keyboard. So the answer would be No. I use it a lot, but Harry doesn't. Wizards don't really need to go on the web. They have an even better way to find out what's happening in the outside world, which I think is a lot more fun than the Internet, but I'm going to keep quiet on this one."

--Probably the mirror, and Fawkes's feathers, and maybe using the portraits to deliver news.

* The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 3 years.

--Good, good, but I don't see what this has to do with Book 5...

* The "Arabella Figg" Dumbledore refers to at the end of book four is indeed the same Mrs. Figg that takes care of Harry for the Dursleys in book one. We'll find out all about her.

--O...K....We know she's a Squib.

* There will be a new sorting hat song.

--Yep.

* Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.

--As others have mentioned, could be Aurors but we don't know for sure.

* We'll meet the real 'Mad-Eye' Moody in book five, and we'll like him even more than the fake Moody.

--Yep.

* Harry will have to deal with a venemous, disgruntled house-elf.

--Kreacher...

* We will find out why Voldemort killed Lily and James Potter.

--Not really, no. You know, before this one I was insanely curious to know why he wanted to kill Harry, but now I want to know why he wanted to kill James and Lily! :o Could just be to get them out of the way...

* Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.

--Er...She didn't like James, and it's her blood that protects Harry, I suppose.

* There will be a female Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher with a personality like poisoned honey.

--Yep.

* We'll see Lupin in Book Five. Yes, we will see a lot of old characters in Book Five.

--Yep. Mrs. Figg, Lockhart, Moody...

* Ginny Weasley will play more of a role in book five.

--Yep.

* One of the main characters, one of Harry's "fans" will die (not Ron or Hermione). The death will be "horrible to write."

--Not really a "fan", but I'll let this one slide (she probably wanted us all to think it was going to be Neville or Colin)

[Lord Schaudt]

* We will find out why Voldemort killed Lily and James Potter.

I think we did, it seems to me that he wanted to kill them becuase their kid was going to kill him. Sort of splash anger, "Arrr im feeling eviler today so i willl not only kill my rival but his parents as well, and his little dog toto" well maybe not just like that

[ChianaWeasley]

Well she wasn't lying when she brought up the "female Defense Against the Dark Arts professor with the personality of poisoned honey". Evil evil evil Umbridge :mad: bad bad bad lady.shakes head sadly at the thought of such a person

I think the comment about Harry having his mother's eyes ties into Snape's worst memory...it shows that Harry is not all of what his father was (his cruelty). I believe Harry's eyes show that he has his mother's humanity and kindness.

Just a guess :D

[Telchar II]

I think it's fairly clear that James, at least, was an Unspeakable. Why? Because the Dursleys don't seem to know what he did for a living. And no one else has mentioned it either.

It appears (from Goblet) that the Unspeakables work in the Dep't of Mysteries). The Mysteries we know about are: Death, Time, Love, and Mind (at least, that's what I think those brains were meant to represent). Which of them did James specialize in? My bet is Time, since I think he would have found it dangerous (read fun) and intriguing. His interest in Time, of course, could set up all sorts of septology conundrums.

Lily and charms: well, what charms have been important so far? I think this must be a reference to either (1) memory charms, (2) that secret-keeping spell (isn't that a charm?), the name of which escapes me, or (3) the homorphus charm, which Lockhart refers to once in a joke passage as "immensely complex." Sounds like JKR might be hiding a clue there.

Whoa -- put "homorphus charm," Lily's wand, and Lupin's movie remarks on the bridge about Lily together, and you get: Lily used to help Lupin with his werewolfism by performing the homorphus charm on him.

(I think. I also think I've read about this idea somewhere else. not my idea.)

still haven't figured out the eyes issue, though.

wait, wait: try this on for size.

the eyes are the only thing that establish that Harry is not James. and that is important. remember what we've seen: a man turn into a baby by contacting a clock in the Time room. so JKR is quietly ruling out the possibility that James survived Godric's Hollow, was turned back into a baby in the Department of Mysteries, and has lived ever since as Harry (with his memory modified, of course, to whatever extent it could survive turning back into a baby). which would explain a lot of things: his "natural" abilities at flying and Quidditch, his physical resemblance to his dad, and his producing Prongs as a Patronus. not to mention Movie Lupin's remarks about how Harry could give James a run for his money.

but the point is that the eyes establish that Harry is not James....oh, no. perhaps this is where Switching spells came in. Perhaps Harry literally has Lily's eyes, and he's James after all. which would explain why there are pictures of Lily and James together, but never one of them with Harry.

is "The Boy Who Lived" really "The Man Who Lived"?

how's that for weird ideas at 1 a.m.?

OK, OK -- what obvious thing am I overlooking? does anyone in these books claim to remember Harry as a baby before Voldemort attacked?

he has his mother's eyes -- now there's a Rowling-style plot pun for you

[ChianaWeasley]

Ah...my head is kinda foggy now from reading your theories :p You've put a great deal of thought into this, not too shabby.

It is very likely that James was an Unspeakable, but if he was, would anyone know, other than Lily. Who sadly could not confide in us. :( Or perhaps Dumbledore may know...hmm...

[Telchar II]

I tried my Harry-IS-James idea on a couple of friends, who said that it would defeat the point of a bildungsroman, a book about personal growth and identity actualization, for Harry to turn out to be someone else. Think of how many kids around the world would be disappointed -- nay, shocked -- to learn that Harry was actually James living a second childhood.

At 5 p.m., I think my friends are right about this. I still think, however, that the fact that Harry has Lily's eyes serves the legitimate plot purpose of distinguishing Harry from his father.

Fidelius Charm. That's is. Close to the Latin for "more faithful." (We wish.)

[ChianaWeasley]

Harry is James...living his second childhood?
Rowling would get dizzy when she sees how much thought people have put into the books!

[Little Miss]

Originally posted by jesuisalleeaujardin
--> nope! we did see dobby, but i think no sign of dementors _ which is pretty interesting, coz when sirius was out, the ministry of magic had dementors at every block of the magical world! kinna like... security and sept. 11 :-( . ...


we saw two dememtors right at the beginning trying to have at harry. as did mrs figg.

edit: whats a dememtor...? christ my spelling is shoddy.

[Colli]

lol Telchar I love your theories! They crack me up

I haven't read OotP since last summer.. I'm long overdue for a reread!

[Telchar II]

You know what JKR springs on us in book 7 will crack you up even worse! :D

Gotta keep thinking, gotta try to figure out what she's up to....

If the plot twist at the end of PoA was a stunner, you know book 7 will give us all headaches!

btw, I just realized from rereading OotP: We know another mystery in the Department of Mysteries: Space. At least, I think that's what the room with the planets must have been -- the one that apparently didn't have any gravity -- the one where Ron, Luna, and Ginny ended up (iirc).

[ChianaWeasley]

Why dont i remember that part of the book!?!?!?

I really need to reread that book again, but it's soo sad.

[Peregrinning Took]

Another interpretation of the planets - - maybe they're trying to prove/disprove the Big Bang theory? Trying to see how the world was created?

[Telchar II]

Could be. But then why would there be no gravity at all?

Chiana -- I agree that rereading that part is full of heartache. :(