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Fleurdelacour
06-23-2003, 04:16 PM
On a lighter note...

We never had a thread on the love lifes of our favourite teenangers ;) Well, I dont think we did anyway...

Well!

Harry had his first kiss with his darling Cho Chang, they're no longer together, and I'm rather disipointed she did't turn out to be a cold hearted !!!!!! :D

And then there was my Ron and my Hermione... A peck on the cheek, and a rather shocked Ron! :swoon:

So, what is in store for this hormonal threesome? :)

Mirdan
06-23-2003, 04:32 PM
Cho got on my nerves! :p

yeah, most likely couple would be Ron and Hermione. Ron's reaction towards Hermy's on-going correspondence with Vicky is proof enough of that :D

what about that look Ron had on his face when they were all inside the train on the way back to King's Cross? that part when Ron asked Ginny who she'd've liked to go out with, he kinda gave a funny look at Harry, as if he expected Ginny to declare her undying crush on Harry or something. think Ron wanted Harry and Ginny to hook up with each other?

lithorose
06-23-2003, 06:55 PM
Yeah, Cho's kinda irritating. But then it's not really surprising that it turns out he doesn't like her; he didn't really know anything about her before. Though I had expected her to be more self-possessed and not relying on Harry for everything.

I definitely think Hermione and Ron are a future item. It can't be that much longer before it finally dawns on them.

And Ginny's sure gotten cool.:cool: Too soon to tell, but she'd definitely be a good match for Harry.

ChianaWeasley
06-23-2003, 10:32 PM
I agree Lithorose.

Im glad he's got pretty perfect Cho out of his system.
Shes a water demon who does nothing but cry.
She was just a twitch in his butt really.

I like ginny alot, and she's finally dating people
which hopefully will make Harry jealous :D

LOL, Ron and Hermione....Ron and Hermione...laughs mischeviously they are going to end up together :cool:

Oh no my friends, there is no doubt:D

Wanna see some snoggage!

Fleur
06-23-2003, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Mirdan

what about that look Ron had on his face when they were all inside the train on the way back to King's Cross? that part when Ron asked Ginny who she'd've liked to go out with, he kinda gave a funny look at Harry, as if he expected Ginny to declare her undying crush on Harry or something. think Ron wanted Harry and Ginny to hook up with each other?

Oh come ON! Harry and Ginny are never going to get together. He loves her as a sister, just like he does Hermione. I just don't ever see it happening. She doesn't even fancy him anymore and if she did it would be way too set up a match. She has got cool though! I definitely like the new Ginny. Reminds me of Pinto in Firesong.

I was surprised that nothing more happened between Ron and Hermione in this one, though it's definitely going to happen. aaw. aint they so sweet?

Cho Chang was such a prat! Like Carrie said, she was totally using Harry. pah! I'm glad Harry got over her.

Mirdan
06-23-2003, 11:05 PM
heh. by the ways things turned out in OotP, i wouldn't be surprised, though, if JKR did pair Harry with Ginny. it may be the perfect choice for some people, but apparently not for others :p besides, i never said Harry will eventually end up with Ginny ;)

going back to Ron and Hermione...could there be a chance that Vicky'll turn up in the next two books? highly doubt it, but it's a thought.

Colli
06-23-2003, 11:56 PM
:) I think the mere fact that Hermione's still in contact with Viktor is a good indication that he'll be back. :D

ChianaWeasley
06-24-2003, 03:10 PM
He may be back yes. But that will definately fuel Ron and Hermione's budding relationship. Ron becomes jealous and turns funny colors, and Hermione blushes because of the fact he's jealous. If Vicky does come back after all, he wont turn Hermione from Ron he'll just help them come together. :)

And I was thinking about Fleur Delacour and Charlie, it would be great if they got married! I'd love to read about ron's reaction to that

And with Harry and Ginny, I think it could happen. I didnt think it would when miss-snots-alot-Cho chang was in the picture. But i can happily say shes gone! Outta here!!! *ehm* Anyway now that she is gone, theres a chance they could get together.

lizz
06-24-2003, 04:44 PM
I was kind of disappointed with the Ron Hermione relationship in OoTP. There was almost nothing going on compared to GoF. But I like the little hints. Ron giving Hermione a perfume!! LOL. And his reaction to her letter to Vicky was nice too. I´d like to hear more about Hermione and Krum.

I´m glad its finished with Harry and Cho, but dont be hard on her. its not easy for her, after Cedrics death, and its defintily not easy going out with a younger boy at that age. Harry had a crush on her and notices it was a crush. Thats it.
I´m in favor of harry and ginny, nothing looks that way right now, but I do want them to pair up. I like Ginny, very indipendent in OoTP and I love when she tells harry off. I cant see them as a couple now but later on. At least they get to know each other pretty well and I think they have an understanding. There are a few times when they look at each other and laugh about something. and very important Ginny finally speaks in front of harry. After all what she had was a really big crush on him, and thats out of the way now. And I like Ron hoping for that, instead of laughing.

susanna
06-24-2003, 05:04 PM
I like Ginny as a seeker. She is pretty good, isn't she, better than Ron as a keeper. I think it's just great to see the younger Weasleys becoming interesting persons.

Does anyone know in which year Angelina, Alicia and Katie are? And in which year were Fred and George when they left school? Sixth or seventh?

Fleurdelacour
06-24-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by lizz
I was kind of disappointed with the Ron Hermione relationship in OoTP. There was almost nothing going on compared to GoF. But I like the little hints. Ron giving Hermione a perfume!! LOL. And his reaction to her letter to Vicky was nice too. I´d like to hear more about Hermione and Krum.


Ron gave Hermione perfume? Or have I read something wrong somewhere or misinterpretated what you said... I still haven't got enough sleep!

The Kiss, I thought was enough, and Ron's reaction to it... Remember JKR said there was something going on in GoF but Ron didn't reilise, and I think, the kiss in OotP made Ron reilise that Hermione kinda liked him more... If that made any sense, probaly didn't...

Oh the day Ron and Hermione get together, will be a wonderful day :)

Harry and Ginny... Hmmm... I sorta ship that, I really didn't want Harry to get with anyone! I didn't like Harry pre-ootp, I prefer the angry Harry for some reason, so now... I think Ginny and Harry could get together, Ginny and Harry have both changed... Not really sure on these too...

lizz
06-24-2003, 05:08 PM
Yes he did, it was his christmas present

Athelas
06-24-2003, 05:26 PM
My 2 cents:

I think Hermione knows it's just a matter of time until Ron realizes there is something going on between her and Ron.

Ginny has turned out to be much more interesting--I think Ron definitely wants her to be with Harry. Eventually.

Luna and Neville (not necessarily together) may factor in here too...

Colli
06-24-2003, 05:27 PM
I didn't notice the perfume thing either...

Fred and George were talking about that being their last year, so they were in their 7th.

Alicia Spinnet is also in her 7th, and I assume Katie and Angelina are in her same year (due to fanfics I've read) but I'm feeling a bit too lazy to look it up. ;)

Monkfish
06-24-2003, 05:27 PM
Luna and Ron.

Hermoine and Harry.:p

Ginny and Dean.

By the way....How many of you felt your stomach lurch when near the end of the book, Hermoine took that blast to the chest, said "Oh!" and collapsed?.. :eek: .

Colli
06-24-2003, 05:32 PM
:) This thread is marked, you don't have to use spoiler boxes. I'm not sure why we are in the main OotP thread..

But I wasn't worried... because not only had Rowling said that Hermione and Ron were safe in OotP, but I had read an article by someone who had (illegally, of course) read OotP and assured us that Ron and Hermione would be back.

*shrugs*

;)

~~

I don't know, Ginny seems to be becoming a lot more independent, and she might not like her family/brother trying to pressure her into dating somebody. I know it annoys the crap out of me when mine act that way. ;)

Mirdan
06-24-2003, 05:33 PM
you know Monkfish? after reading OotP, i thought it'd be Harry and Luna ;) :p

Originally posted by Monkfish
By the way....How many of you felt your stomach lurch when near the end of the book, Hermoine took that blast to the chest, said "Oh!" and collapsed?.. :eek: .
i thought she was dead. and then i thought, "but what about Ron?!" :rolleyes: :D

JKR really made it out to look like some characters died, didn't she?

Monkfish
06-24-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Mirdan
JKR really made it out to look like some characters died, didn't she?

I was a nervous wreck by the end of it!:D

Athelas
06-24-2003, 05:41 PM
By the way....How many of you felt your stomach lurch when near the end of the book, Hermoine took that blast to the chest, said "Oh!" and collapsed?.. :wave: ME!

Monkfish
06-24-2003, 05:43 PM
I mean.........It was nearly the end of the book.........and sudden!:D

Colli
06-24-2003, 05:44 PM
I dunno, I think at that point I had resigned to the fact that Sirius was gonna die... but I was really worried about Neville!!!

ChianaWeasley
06-24-2003, 05:56 PM
I almost burst into tears when Mrs.Weasley was looking at a dead Ron on the floor. But it was ok after that.

Hermione being hit with the curse, that scared the crap out of me. But then when she was ok I started breathing again, then I thought 'so who dies?

Ron and Hermione grins
thats is so adorable,
funny I missed the part about him giving her perfume,
knowing ron it was probably 'Ode Du Fresh' or something really smelly and cheap. ;) poor guy

Neville, Neville is going to get the girl in the end.
He's really matured and growing up
I loved it when he attacked Malfoy
I just started whooping and hollering
You go Neville!Kick his slimy little ass!'

mallorniphredil
06-25-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Fleurdelacour
The Kiss, I thought was enough, and Ron's reaction to it... Remember JKR said there was something going on in GoF but Ron didn't reilise, and I think, the kiss in OotP made Ron reilise that Hermione kinda liked him more... If that made any sense, probaly didn't...


Erm..... Sorry for asking, but what kiss? If it was between Ron and Hermione, I didn't catch it... :D

susanna
06-25-2003, 07:43 AM
Me neither. I remember Ron giving Hermione some perfume as a present for Christmas, but I don't remember them kissing.

lizz
06-25-2003, 12:15 PM
I dont remember where it was, but in one scene Hermione kissed Ron on the cheek.

funny enough I wasnt really worried about Hermione at the end. I is a scary scene but my mind was fixed on sirius. By then I was sure he would die.

Fleurdelacour
06-25-2003, 03:35 PM
I guess I was to worred about Mr Weasley to notice the purfume... Not like mt not to notice something like purfume!

Purfume

"Thanks for the book, Harry," she said happily. "I've been wanting The new Theory of Numerology for ages! And that purfume's really unusual, Ron"

The kiss, just before Ron's first Quidditch game.

"Good luck Ron," said Hermione, standing on her tiptoe and kissing him on the cheek. "And you, Harry - " Ron seemed to come to himself slightly as they walked across the Great Hall. He touched the spot on his face where Hermione had just kissed him, looking puzzled, as though he was not quite sure what had just happened. He seemed to dstracted to notice much around him.

I can almost quote the Kiss directly ;)

Oh, my stomach did more then lurch... It did an unpleasant turn, it seemed wrong... That flame thing seemed like the opposite of smelling salts... It was to sudden... But then again, so was Sirius's death...

edit:

I've just had a thought!

Lily and James - They argued basically...

Ron and Hermione - They argue....

See what I'm getting at ;)

ChianaWeasley
06-25-2003, 09:15 PM
Oh Fleur thats not a stomach lurch kiss....

its a

Squeal like a pre-teen at a pop concert and waving your feet like mad while sitting on the couch and reading

not that I know....from experiance......:o

Ok! Jeez, some people still squeal!!!

looks around nervously

what?! it was really cute!!!
:p

Monkfish
06-26-2003, 01:44 AM
Still think it will be Ron and Luna:p

Luna laughing over-much at Ron`s joke on the train......wanting to hold his owl cage.....staring at him on the coach.....;)

I think there will be a bust-up over Hermoine in the next book between Harry (who has finally got over his crush with Cho) and Ron (who is taking his time letting Hermoine know how he feels).:D

After all......Hermoine kissed Harry on the cheek at the end of GOF...:p

Colli
06-26-2003, 01:59 AM
ARGH!! Kisses on the cheek! Are not a big deal! Platonic! :)

Hermione kissed Harry on the cheek in GoF.

Hermione kissed Ron on the cheek in OotP.

They're equal! :p :D

Although I'm still seeing the Ron/Hermione thing as more likely. :)

Fleurdelacour
06-26-2003, 12:11 PM
I'm watching teh JKR webroadcast right now... On a tiny screen... These little tweenies (jealous... moi?) are all chanting "HARRY!" *hisses* I had the best question!!!! *sulks*

It is a big deal! Harry didn't even think of the kiss as anything, but Ron did! That's the difference! Ron was dazed, and had "bloody hell" written all over his face! :D

Harry and Hermione shippers are the weird ones, the ones in denial :p JKR has said they're platonic, but they're so sure, and so blind :p

I was worried about Luna just for that Monkfish! I liked her, but her love for Ron... Bit miffed at that ;)

ChianaWeasley
06-26-2003, 03:39 PM
Luna may pine for Ron but she will never have him.

Ron is clearly head over heels for Hermione, when she even mentions Victor Krum he gets an angry look and spits out
'Vicky?!, and when she smooches him on the cheek...it all adds up.

Luna and Neville:) Yep, thats how I see it all.
Luna Longbottom kind of catchy if you think about it really.

Harry and Hermione?.......naw I dont see that happening anytime in the near future. He sees her too much as a sisterly figure, as well as a nagging figure.

wrinkles nose

t3h Qster
06-26-2003, 06:10 PM
ok ok......I see that yes hermione has given both boys a peck on the cheek.....that is very platonic, so neither means nothing....its their reactions

Ron.......was flabbergasted

Harry......he continued on home (since it was at the end)

Ron hates Viktor after loving Viktor as his fav quidditch player, so Ron likes hermione and at their age it is much easier to show someone you like them by arguing the way they do....

Harry and Hermione laughingly joke about all the crap they got from Rita in GoF, and again with Cho in OotP so they truly are best friends.....

the real thing about this triangle is that it could go either way......Id like to see Harry have someone like Hermione but I dont know if its possible (seems to be an invisible brother/sister thing, since neither harry or hermy ;) have no siblings [that we know of]) so I believe Harry will be alone.....and Viktor will lose in common distance makes all the difference perspective and Ron will start to become bolder in his pursuits for hermy :)

in closing however, both harry and ron have strong feelings for hermy and whichever one of them does find her heart, will make it tougher on the trio's overall friendship......cuz even the wizarding world can be just as complex in romance as the muggle world........ :(

lizz
06-27-2003, 12:32 PM
I dont see it as a triangle, Harry and Hermione are just not a couple.
But Ron/hermione relationship will have its effects on the three. After all when they finally start dating, they wont want Harry around them all the time.

Nice idea about Luna and Neville Chiana. :)

t3h Qster
06-27-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by lizz

But Ron/hermione relationship will have its effects on the three. After all when they finally start dating, they wont want Harry around them all the time.


yep you sealed the fact right there........when that does happen Harry will feel more alone and knowing him, upset at the two of them as well.....so the future relation of ron/hermy will cause a triangle conflict, not in a relationship sense, but in a friendship way

ChianaWeasley
06-27-2003, 09:40 PM
I agree lizz, not to gang up on you Oyster (can i call you Oyster, your name reminds me of oyster :D )

Well, I dont see a triangle, i looked at your list of comparisions between Harry and ron. It all ways towards Ron, Harry is open, more to keep us in suspense and wonder I think ;) good ole' J.K. Rowling.

And of course their relationship may change when they do stop running round the hedge. But the same with Harry and Cho, things seems to change, but they adapted. With ron and Hermione it will be a bigger change, Harry is going to feel like a third wheel for awhile, but I think their friendship is too strong. Harry will find someone to be happy with in time

Colli
06-27-2003, 09:48 PM
At the risk of being :trout:ed.. I've been thinking.

Hermione's growing up a lot, yes? And Ron is too... but while Hermione and Harry were trying to solve problem #405329, Ron was celebrating a Quidditch victory. Do you think she put that scene in the book for a reason? To show readers the rapid changes in both Hermione and Ron? I tend to think that Hermione might soon be too mature for Ron, if he doesn't do a lot of growing up soon.

Reba
06-28-2003, 12:42 AM
umm...Colli? Girls usually are more mature than boys anyhow. That's the way of the world, I don't think it would be much different in the wizarding world ;)

I think it'll end up being Harry and Loony. Or Harry and Neville...I mean after Dubbledore (*snarf* :LOL: ) told Harry that Neville is the other boy who *could* be the prophecy, and how Neville improved so much in the DA, Harry seems to have a new respect for him ;)

don't worry, I'll do it myself! :trout:

:D

Colli
06-28-2003, 12:56 AM
LOL, thanks for that amazing revelation, Reba. :D

Girls are more mature, yeah, but that does tend to even out a little bit in high school. For instance, given Harry and Ron, I think Harry is maturing a lot quicker than Ron, some of that has to do with what he's faced, some of it doesn't. (That doesn't mean I'm a Harry/Hermione shipper :p) I just think the way things are going, Hermione's going to be a tad bit out of Ron's league.

:p :trout: anyway ;)

t3h Qster
06-28-2003, 02:36 AM
I just know harry and hermy wont be an item......they truly are like self adoted siblings .......but who knows with Ron, maybe he will become bolder if Viktor returns to Hogwarts to see Hermione

Monkfish
06-28-2003, 04:02 AM
I just know Harry and Hermoine will get together after Ron is tragically killed in a Quidditch accident....:eek:

The rest of you are off swimming in the river of Egypt.

(In de-Nile) :D

ChianaWeasley
06-28-2003, 10:00 AM
Out of Hermione's reach?
Never I say!!!

That's what makes Ron so appealing for Hermione, he's childish and immature. She's the complete opposite. And opposites attract mind you :D

And they were both made prefects, which I feel shows the Quidditch playing feild is level on both sides. They're opposties, yet they both became prefects

raised eyebrow and knocks their shoulders

eh?eh?

:p

t3h Qster
06-28-2003, 01:13 PM
um well lets see, harry plays quidditich too he will return in book 6

and opposites do attract, we will just have to see if thei major opposition between the two will eventually melt away....

Fleurdelacour
06-28-2003, 05:36 PM
of course opposites attract! take my aunt and her partner for example! She's divorced, nearly fourty with three kids, and her partner is in his twenties, got no children, and now she's pregnant! :D

Monkfish! Don't say that! :eek: :( My poor Ronnie...

I think Ron's matured in OotP, now that he's a prefect, he is still funny, and silly, but then he wouldn't be Ron, but now he's a prefect.. I think... He now has a responsibility, he's now living up to his brothers (remember what he saw in the Mirror of Erised) ge got the Quidditch cup too :) Ron's getting his dreams, and he's gonna get the girl.

Although, I could be biased, I adore Ron! ;) :p

xKatiexBellx
06-28-2003, 10:56 PM
Mind if i join?
I agree... Ron Can't Die!!!!!!!!!! He's a really good character!:(

StarGazr
06-28-2003, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Monkfish
I just know Harry and Hermoine will get together after Ron is tragically killed in a Quidditch accident....:eek:

The rest of you are off swimming in the river of Egypt.

(In de-Nile) :D


*bounds into the room and plants herself right next to Monk* I agree with everything Monk has said!! I am fully prepared to be trouted... I've said it before and I'll say it again... I don't like Ron/Hermione... that about wraps up my rant... I'll be back to support myself when my head is back on my shoulders (bad cold)

t3h Qster
06-29-2003, 02:30 AM
hey SG Im all for harry and hermy but I just dont think JK will do it......but as far as Ron being prefect and maturing.....how many times did he wish to crawl under a rock than do his duties.......pfft bad argument there.....but yes he will get all he saw in the mirror, but the mirror didnt show him with hermione did it? :p

lizz
06-29-2003, 01:11 PM
Maybe the mirror would show him with herminoe now! After all that was in first year and his greatest dream was to come out of the shadow of his brothers. he got the quiddich cup, maybe he will Quidditch captain and head Boy too. After all they need a new quidditch captain. After his last match his chances should be quite good.

I dont think be neglected his duties, he was more relaxed than Hermione thats true, but willing to hide only when Fred and George were concerned.

Marchwarden
06-29-2003, 08:51 PM
I foresee one of two options:

1) Luna would be good for Harry. He'ss going to be tormented and preoccupied with the Second War and the Prophecy, and she's always unruffled (except by the purely absurd). He knows what it's like to be treated like a lunatic, and won't fail to notice that she always seems sound when it counts. Also, he'd get to meet her father, which sounds like fun.

Ron - with Hermione, it's been foreshadowed for several volumes (right back to the first, if you follow the "Han/Leia" tradition that says the ones who bicker at first sight always end up together).

Neville, after years of being a woebegone laughingstock, finally finds his stride and - and his finest moment. In stark counterpoint to the arbitrary death in OotP, Neville meets a hero's end, battling half a dozen Death Eaters to buy time for his friends, and manages to take the Lestranges with him.

Or,

2) Ron and Hermione (see above). Luna, with her curious perceptions, sees right through Neville's anxiety and underconfidence, and her matter-of-fact acceptance of the hero beneath the hangups gives him the faith in himself he'd never had. They end up together, and Harry...Harry is being groomed to succeed Dumbledore as archwizard for the side of light; he'll have many friends and admirers and be godfather to little Harry Weasley, but he'll end up married to his magic, because the wizarding world will become his family.

ChianaWeasley
06-30-2003, 11:02 PM
you ess burnin our eares you are!!!!

clutches ears and rocks to and fro

Ron will NOT be killed!

I will not trout either of you, for it is your own opinion. And I will not condemn you for it. But he isnt going to be killed off

runs into the middle of a feild shouting at the torbid thunderclouds

you hear me J.K. he will NOT be killed!!!!!

;)

mello dramatic? i am guitly as charged

I rather think Luna and Harry could be brother and sister

theres a noodle scratcher.....

Marchwarden
07-01-2003, 12:12 AM
New thought (from events in OotP):

The Squad hauls in Neville because he tried, single-handedly, to stop them from capturing Ginny. Now, this could easily have been a simple attempt to help a fellow D.A. in distress...or could Neville's chivalric effort have been motivated by as-yet-inchoate feelings of a more personal nature?

jesuisalleeaujardin
07-01-2003, 01:06 AM
ahm... i'm gone for a weekend and everyone starts thinking of who jk rowling's gonna kill off next?!?! :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: . ...

but nooooo, no no no no more... i don't think i can stand another death. i know it happens all the time in real life, and that it won't be a real war if no one else dies, BUT STILL! let's be more optimistic here! let's not wrap each other in protective divinations and go I TOLD YOU SOOOOO!!!! hahahaha. ...

oh, just thoughts, hahaha. ...

jardin

ChianaWeasley
07-01-2003, 06:41 PM
this is the life without love thread, not the whose going to be written off thread.

Focus on the coupling !

Ron/Hermione

Harry/Ginny

Like I said in the other threads, ginny and Harry are going to get interesting. Now that she's moved on and not falling head over heels for Harry, he's going to notice her. Who knows what will unravel. Hell, the tables could turn. He wants her, but she doesn't seem to notice him int hat way anymore.

the possibilties....

And ron and Hermione, they could go on another two years, until they both realize their crazy for one another.

Ok, I'm done ranting for now.

At the same time i'm discussing what love is with someone, its got me in speech mode.
:D

Food for thought.

I'd be good at soap operas:cool:

StarGazr
07-01-2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
Focus on the coupling !

Ron/Hermione

Harry/Ginny

*turns away and makes gagging noices and faces*

Marchwarden
07-01-2003, 09:14 PM
How far apart in years are Lupin and Tonks, do you think? (I believe that this is on topic as several people have suggested them as a couple and others have brought up the age difference.)

She's Sirius' cousin's daughter, which would make her a generation younger. However, 'generation' is a flexible term. I have a cousin 15 years older than myself, and one on the other side who is 12 years my junior.

Tonks is easy: 17 at graduation plus three year's Auror training plus one year Auror experience equals 21. Granted, she could be a prodigy or could have been left back a year, but she doesn't come across as smarter than Hermione (who hasn't been permitted to skip a grade) or stupider than Goyle (who hasn't been left back.

Lupin? 17 + 15 (Harry's age) + whatever time it took after graduation for James and Lily to marry and have a kid.

The impressions we initially receive paint them as childhood sweethearts who no doubt married soon after graduation. However, we now know that Lily only started dating James in seventh year, so it seems more likely that they waited at least a little while.

Of course, Lupin is described, albeit vaguely, as "quite young" (but tired and sickly). So maybe mid-thirties is a good estimate. Then again, does his condition affect his aging? According to some myths, werewolves possess unnatural longevity.

ChianaWeasley
07-02-2003, 10:36 PM
Star! You dont even like ron and Hermione?
:(
well, I rather liked the idea....
;) :)

Tonks and Lupin is an interesting theory of course, but that might be something J.K. leaves untouched. I would never have expected it, until someone brought up the idea.

Marchwarden
07-14-2003, 11:50 AM
I try to go beyond the snoggage and look for compatible personalities.

Ron/Hermione: She *does* have a problem with taking things too seriously sometimes. He was too childish as of two years back, but he's started catching up. I suspect that his maturation will accelerate now that he's the oldest Weasley at the school (having older siblings around can sometimes mire one in the 'little brother' role). A lighthearted - but no longer infantile - Ron would be a healthy counterpart for Hermione.

Remus/Tonks: I honestly don't see this as a long-term prospect, but...she's young, bold and brash, and he's always been a bit quiet and withdrawn (and may become all the more so, after the Death), so I think a little harmless flirtation would buoy him up. In return, his maturity and sensibility would be an anchor for her - under that playful, devil-may-care exterior, Tonks is a very young Auror fighting in two guises against the forces of the Dark Lord, which happen to include her murderous auntie. That's got to be intimidating, but the Last Marauder can help her find the strength to persevere.

Harry: Honestly, I don't think he'll end up with anyone. He's got that destiny thing to cope with, and in due course of time I think he's going to step into Dumbledore's role as archwizard. Just please don't drag out the tired device of the girlfriend who gets killed so that he can go all vengeful; it's hackneyed.

Neville: Probably destined for a hero's death, but if not (or at least until then), he deserves to have someone notice how far he's developed since first year. He does seem to have a soft spot for Ginny (taking her to the Yule Ball, fighting to save her from the I-Squad), but she hasn't reciprocated much...yet. The greatest tragedy would be if she only realized in his moment of sacrifice how much she'd meant to him, and what he might have meant to her. :(

ChianaWeasley
07-14-2003, 04:16 PM
Well my defense for Ron/Hermione is this; opposites +attrach+!!!

They are fish and chips!
Locksely and Bagelle!
Ketchup and mashed potatoes!
Carnival rides and saw dust!
Bart and the skateboard!

they are meant for each other


:D

Kristin
07-14-2003, 07:04 PM
Ron and Hermione - I definitely see happening.

Tonks and Lupin - I DON'T see it happening. Nope.

Harry and ? - I think Harry is going to be like Frodo and stay single.

Marchwarden
07-14-2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Kristin
Harry and ? - I think Harry is going to be like Frodo and stay single.

Apt analogy.

Bellatrix_Lestrange
07-15-2003, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Marchwarden
I try to go beyond the snoggage and look for compatible personalities.


Neville: Probably destined for a hero's death, but if not (or at least until then), he deserves to have someone notice how far he's developed since first year. He does seem to have a soft spot for Ginny (taking her to the Yule Ball, fighting to save her from the I-Squad), but she hasn't reciprocated much...yet. The greatest tragedy would be if she only realized in his moment of sacrifice how much she'd meant to him, and what he might have meant to her. :(

As for Neville: that would be pretty tragic. Hasn't he suffered enough?

As for compatibility, Lucius and Bellatrix seem to complement each other well. Of course, they each have a lackluster spouse in the way, but this isn't an insurmountable obstacle for the likes of them.

Colli
07-15-2003, 02:56 AM
But Lucius is Bellatrix's brother-in-law.... we can't turn this into a soap opera. :p :D

ChianaWeasley
07-15-2003, 11:27 AM
I rather like to think Neville will end up with Luna, or some nice girl that he deserves. I would date Neville:D

Marchwarden
07-15-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
I rather like to think Neville will end up with Luna, or some nice girl that he deserves. I would date Neville:D

I know you're a Harry/Ginny supporter, CW, but the foreshadowing does aim towards Neville/Ginny.

Colli
07-15-2003, 05:35 PM
It does? :confused: I think you guys are reading way too much into things. :D


:) That being said, I can't really see Luna dating anyone.

Mirdan
07-15-2003, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Kristin
Harry and ? - I think Harry is going to be like Frodo and stay single.
yeah, let's hope the similarities end there...i think i'm going to gouge my eyes out if Harry does a "Grey Havens" and walks through that veil :eek:

of course, i'd do that after i've finished reading the book :p

but if anything, i think Lupin will be the lifelong bachelor at the end of Book 7 :(

Marchwarden
07-15-2003, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Colli
It does? :confused: I think you guys are reading way too much into things. :D

<in best Jango Fett voice>"Possibly."

:) That being said, I can't really see Luna dating anyone.
Oh, I can. Remember, Luna isn't non-functional; she's nonstandard. She thinks outside the box (in fact, I rather doubt she's ever noticed that there is a box). She'd date outside the box. Luna wouldn't wait to be gallantly asked, then blush, then giggle, then accede. She'd be direct and matter-of-fact, as if she'd expected everyone to intuit the obvious match.

Kristin
07-15-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Marchwarden
She thinks outside the box (in fact, I rather doubt she's ever noticed that there is a box).

Oh, I love that! Wonderfully well put! :D

Luna seems unfazed by people not liking her or making fun of her, so I certainly don't see her as the type to be all concerned over a boy.

Maybe she'll date Neville. Although Neville/Ginny is looking like a possibility as well.

ChianaWeasley
07-15-2003, 09:14 PM
Neville/Ginny?

I agree with Colli, I just dont see that happening. I feel the signs are pointing towards Ginny and harry ending up together. Neville will definately end up with a girlfriend, just not entirly sure who it could be...

Fleurdelacour
07-18-2003, 04:18 PM
I hope Remus wont be a life long bachelor Mirdan :( I'll have him... He probaly does have all his inhabitions and everything (have gone into more detail in the Hug Remus thread, cant be arsed now...) regarding his werewolf state...

I hope JKR gives him a break :(

I think Luna in a relationship would be funny, if some lad was trying to, say snog her, she could just stare at him looking uninterested :D

I had the weirdest dream about Sirius and Molly having an affair... They only got found out because Molly got an STI off Sirius and Remus was the only one who knew Sirius had the STI... How weird is that? and impossible... i blame the sea air...

Moxie
07-18-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Fleurdelacour
I had the weirdest dream... Molly got an STI off Sirius and Remus was the only one who knew Sirius had the STI... How weird is that? and impossible... i blame the sea air...

I blame all the fanfic in which Sirius chases after anything that moves. :eek: ;)

Remus obviously needs a woman who's either a werewolf herself, or an Animagus who can accompany him in her animal form like his old school friends used to. (Probably not McGonagall - too much older, according to JKR interviews - and hopefully not Rita Skeeter, about whom I've stated my pet theory elsewhere.)

ChianaWeasley
07-18-2003, 10:50 PM
Sirius seems like the fellow who would only fall for the right girl. When he leasts suspects it.

I can see Luna in a relationship with colin Creevey :D

They are both very alike

And another couple would be Crabbe and Goyle, that'd be cute

Fleurdelacour
07-19-2003, 05:20 PM
lol Moxie :D

Aww Crabbe and Goyle, they only have each other! :p

My friend Altair is just devastated, she was the world's biggest Remus/Sirius shipper... That was a good ship too.... *sigh*

ChianaWeasley
07-22-2003, 11:25 AM
NEVER give up home Remus! Remember true love doesn't happen every day! Even death cannot part you!!!

Yeah ok, I admitt it, I've had my share of Princess Bride' this week
:o :D

Marchwarden
07-22-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
NEVER give up home Remus! Remember true love doesn't happen every day! Even death cannot part you!!!

Yeah ok, I admitt it, I've had my share of Princess Bride' this week
:o :D

I suppose I should explain to you that the *name* is the important thing. You see, no one would surrender to the Dread Pirate Weasley...

ChianaWeasley
07-22-2003, 11:25 PM
Oh yes they would!

Crabbe and Goyle are going to get together!

sirius and Remus are going to get together!

Ron and Hermione are going to be together!

Fleurdelacour
07-23-2003, 04:03 PM
I read the best Maurading fic regarding Remus and Sirius last night, but it was nc-17 so I cant post it here, if you want to read it, pm me, and I'll give you the link. It was the best :D

I need school... Look at my vocab...best... blah... it's been 10 weeks...

Ron and Hermione just MUST get together! It's just written in the stars!

well remus and sirius is written in the stars... both canine, just perfect...

*cries*

ChianaWeasley
07-24-2003, 11:45 AM
Yes written in the stars....reminds me a bit too much of Star Wars though. ;) It would be adorable really, think of the little blighters they'de have! Cute little red headed Weasleys. Playing with their toy broom sticks in the yard with their uncle Harry, the great Quidditch seeker.
:D
Dont you all see? Its fate, and i really dont believe that much in fate. But Ron and Hermione their futures are tied together, whether they'll see that yet or not.
:)

Elbereth94
07-24-2003, 12:21 PM
Right now I would have to say I support;

Ron/Hermione- Its been obvious since Book 1

Harry/Ginny- C'mon people! Its too terribly obvious! Ginny is identical to Lily and we already know Harry is identical to James

Tonks/Remus- I don't know...its just feels right. Remus would be the person who calms her down and I think he is going to need a lil lovin' after Sirius' death. 'Couse, I'm still single. **looks pointedly at Remus**

However, in an interview, JKR was quoted saying that no one if going to end up with the person it appears right now. I don't know if that was before or after OoTP. Going by that I would say;

Ron/Luna- I don't really like Luna, sorry to all who do

Harry/Hermione- I would be okay with this one

Tonks/Remus- I know this one stayed the same, because I want it to happen but there is absolutely nothing in the books to give proof to it.

Ginny/Neville- Neville needs to get the girl.

So, yes...there you go. I really hope it happens the way I want it.

ChianaWeasley
07-24-2003, 11:39 PM
Ron/Hermione-they love each other, even though they may not know it yet
Harry/Ginny-He'll be chasing her, instead of the other way around. And I really like that idea:D
Neville/Luna-your right, Neville deserves the girl
Tonks/Remus-not too sure there, but it would be nice

legolass
07-25-2003, 12:52 AM
Ron and Hermione, definitely! I must admit I really like the "getting-on-each-other's-nerves-but-really-attracted-to-each-other" type of relationship. I was a bit disappointed - there were no "fireworks" between them in OoTP after GoF, but I'm sure something will happen in the next book or so. (something better happen :mad: ;))

Harry: Hmmm... I think I subscribe to the "perpetually single" idea. He does have a lot to think about, and after he realizes he's gotten over Cho ... there's a passage there that says he changed and how he realized that some things matter more than crushes, etc., etc. (I can't recall exactly what passage, but that was the way I understood it).

Ginny: I was pleasantly surprised by her development in this book - she's turned out to be an independent thinker and brave, too! Anyway, I love the way Ron reacts when he discovers who Ginny's been dating - very older brother like :D I don't think Ginny will end up with Harry, but I do hope she ends up with someone who's equally smart and brave.

Tonks and Remus? I have never even thought about it - nothing in OoTP to show attraction, etc. But who knows?

Fleurdelacour
07-25-2003, 11:41 AM
Although I was a Remus and Sirius shipper. (Oh I'd love to ask JKR if there was anything ever going on between the two, there are clues towards it!! Not every witch and wizard can be straight!) I'm writting a Remus/Tonks story... I think it's just out of want for my favourite character to be happy, and I like Tonks's character :)

RON AND HERMIONE FOREVER!!! :D

ChianaWeasley
07-26-2003, 12:22 PM
You must find it interesting that ron gets upset about Ginny dating, always has something to day about who ever the lad is.BUT you notice he has no problem with Harry and Ginny, he even hints at it a few times.

And there were a few "fireworks" between Ron and Hermione in OoTP it's just they weren't as obvious. For example, she kisses him on the cheek and he kind of mumbles and wanders off. Fireworks, little ones, but not duds at least;)

:beer:

Hear, Hear Fleur!!!

Elbereth94
07-26-2003, 01:32 PM
Yea, I kind of though Goblet of Fire was the Ron/Hermione book, while Order of the Phoenix kind of leaned towards Harry/Hermione. At least, thats what I got. I have no idea who she'll pick in the end. It might be better if she just stayed with Krum, cause either way, one of the boys will kind of get shunted aside[

Fleurdelacour
07-26-2003, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
You must find it interesting that ron gets upset about Ginny dating, always has something to day about who ever the lad is.BUT you notice he has no problem with Harry and Ginny, he even hints at it a few times.

And there were a few "fireworks" between Ron and Hermione in OoTP it's just they weren't as obvious. For example, she kisses him on the cheek and he kind of mumbles and wanders off. Fireworks, little ones, but not duds at least;)

:beer:

Hear, Hear Fleur!!!

yeah..! hear hear Chiana!! :D

That was no ordinary kiss! Hermione and Ron need to bloody snog! It's so fustrating... But we can wait, two more books, hopefully two more years... lol, if it's more then that... I'll be an adult and that'll be wrong...

ChianaWeasley
07-26-2003, 11:57 PM
I didn't think the fifth book hinted at Harry and Hermione at all really. Ron/Hermione weigh too heavily in my opinion.

And its not wrong Fleur, you're simply a long time fan

lizz
07-27-2003, 12:17 PM
elbereth where did you see signs Harry/hermione. I couldn see any of them but quite a few small signs towards ron/hermione, sublter than in gof but there during the whole year.

fleur, I´m an adult right now, but that doesnt stop me to love HP :)

Fleurdelacour
07-27-2003, 03:52 PM
It's not that I won't stop liking HP, it's more of the fact, it seems wrong that I would ever have to grow up, turning 16 was bad enough... :eek: Ah, that's something I'm looking forward too... Harry's 16th birthday, after what people wrote in my cards, lol!

How did OotP lean towards Harry and Hermione? It's never leaned towards them, JKR said so, said they're platonic. Whereas Ron and Hermione! *snickers*

ChianaWeasley
07-28-2003, 12:10 AM
:eek:
Dug up a trailer for Peter Pan, which comes out in Christmas!!!
I have to go see it!!!
lol, anyhow my point is this
If you go to neverland you wont ever have to grow up :D

Viva la amora de Ron y Hermione!!!
:p

Fleurdelacour
07-28-2003, 03:39 PM
eek! I saw the trailer for Peter Pan!! :D It looks soo good! Yes, I intend to go there, and I live in London, sp it'll be easier to find that star... Actually... I can't see many stars, apart from Sirius's Star, and that's the brightest...

*sigh*

Oh well, we have RON AND HERMIONE!! :D :D

ChianaWeasley
07-29-2003, 12:29 AM
Well, I look at the title of this particular discussion thread, and I find myself shocked to think of the next few books without any love in it. There has to be love interests in it, it'd be impossible to not have any. Completely crazy if you ask me!

We've all got to have our share of Ron and Hermione!!!
Come on now, matches like those two dont happen everyday.

And what fun would it be really, without always wondering about things hinter and lightened upon that happen.Things that could lead to new relationships....:swoon:

PhineasNigellus
07-29-2003, 11:59 AM
I think Ron only reacts as he does about Ginny's dating because lets face it he must be really imbarassed that he is a year older and sees even less action then her :D


OR

he is using reverse Psych to keep her away from harry so maybe he will be in with a shot.

ChianaWeasley
07-29-2003, 10:04 PM
Wait a moment, the way you worded that, makes it sound as if ron wants a shot with ginny. Mucho confused,lol.

But it's interesting to read how ron reacts. Din pointed it out, that he has no qualms qith the idea of Harry being the applie of Ginny's eye:cool:

PhineasNigellus
07-30-2003, 12:56 PM
Ooops see what you mean ...i actually meant that Ron fancies Harry.

(i hate ron)

but the way you read it makes ron out to be an even bigger freak so maybe i should leave it at that...

someones probably asked this already but do we think Tonks is a :notworthy lesbian?

ChianaWeasley
07-30-2003, 02:13 PM
:jawdrop:

you....you....you what?................

You hate Ron......

But....but....thats horrid!!!!

oh say it isn't so Phineas!!!!!!!

runs out of the room crying

StarGazr
07-30-2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
[BYou hate Ron......[/B]


*peeks head in* Sorry, I don't like Ron either... *shurgs and wanders out again*

PhineasNigellus
07-30-2003, 04:35 PM
Sorry, I don't like Ron either...


I'm in Slytherin...whats your excuse?

Drizella
07-30-2003, 06:39 PM
RON AND HERMIONE! :D All the signs are there. C'mon, guys. :)

While I do think that Harry and Hermione compliment each other extremely well, I don't think a working relationship is in order for them. They make great friends is all.

And as for Harry, it's gotta be Ginny! I wouldn't be too surprised if he remained single, but I'm definitely banking for something more between the two of them. Harry needs a woman who will put him in his place, and Ginny's the only gal there fit for the job! She speaks her mind, and Harry's not exactly the take-charge type when it comes to girls. It's a perfact match!

Plus they'd be wicked cute together.

Not that he has time or the mental energy to persue a relationship. But still.

I've always thought of Lupin as a complete loner when it comes dating. It fits him somehow. I can't picture Lupin with anyone. (Unless you count myself, of course. :D )

EDIT: What's not to love about Ron? :confused:

ChianaWeasley
07-31-2003, 11:33 AM
Chiana sits and stares at the screen a moment
:jawdrop:

None of you like Ron?
:eek: :eek: :eek:

But why?!

WEll, the plus side to this is I get ron all to my onesy!!
Savvy?
;)

Drizella
07-31-2003, 02:17 PM
Hey, I love Ron, so there. :p

Fleurdelacour
07-31-2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by PhineasNigellus
someones probably asked this already but do we think Tonks is a :notworthy lesbian?

That's what my friend said, but I think she was sterotyping... :rolleyes: Which I hope you're not... *narrows eyes*

Don't worry Chiana! I still love him! :hug: How any one cant is such insane! He's got that wonderful red hair, he has dreams of being sucsessful, he needs a bloody hug, he's a stubbourn eegit, he's tall and got big hands (hehe!) he's funny, and deserves to be loved!! I LOVE MY RON!! :D


I can't picture Lupin with anyone. (Unless you count myself, of course. :D )

Oi! Don't nick him off me! ;) He's mine I tells ya! Mine! :p

And I'm having Ron too, they're both mine! MAHAHA!!

No, sorry... I should share and stop listening to Queen... Does strange things...

ChianaWeasley
07-31-2003, 06:48 PM
It's not likely that she is, but for all we know she could be. But that would really have a negative effect in the media. It's very sad but it's true. That would have all the religious raving groups flaming again. I say if thats what Rowling wants, well then she should do what she likes:D

Im interested in finding out more about Fleur and Bill's relationship that seems to be blooming Chiana knocks elbows with the other person sitting next to her, imitating Charlie Chaplin

Fleurdelacour
08-01-2003, 10:19 AM
lol! Fleur and Bills *ahem* private lessons :D

Well, not every witch and wizard can be straight though, can they? And I think she said in her Royal Albert Hall Interview (which I didn't win tickets for... hmph...*shuns telly show*) she likes dealing with prejudice, as we've seen... bah, cant remember...

I wonder... if there will be more then just snogging... :LOL: jkr could pull it off, she always cuts things off, like Harry's kiss with Cho... And when Fred and George's boils were a pain in the -- ARSE! :p

ChianaWeasley
08-01-2003, 01:04 PM
Couldn't sit properly on a broomstick!
:LOL:

I dont think she'll go much further then kissing, prehaps maybe alittle bit more. For example in GoF she desrcibed Fleur and Davie finding deeper bushes to become more...private.:o

But I dont think she'll go THAT far, if we're thinking the same thing. Remember this book is still geared towards younger readers, she'll keep that in mind.

Not that we wouldn't mind reading about Ron and Hermione seeking some ...privacy;)

Fleurdelacour
08-01-2003, 01:20 PM
Oh god they're gems arent they? I wonder who they will end up with.. I can imagine girls throwing themselves at them! :LOL:

Well if she doesn't go subtly futher, if she doesn't provide us with anymore snogging, that'll just be mean... more then mean - evil! Especially between Ron and Hermione... I could just see it...

Harry has a detention with a teacher, leaving Ron and Hermione by the fire. They finally realise they fancy the pants off each other and Harry walks in on them kissing!

ChianaWeasley
08-01-2003, 01:38 PM
Maybe they do fancy the pants off each other
eh eh?
knocks elbows with Fleur, Chiana does her Charlie Chaplin
:o
;)

Fleurdelacour
08-04-2003, 03:58 PM
Yeah! I think they just might y'know! ;)

Ah...

"Good luck Ron," said Hermione, standing on tiptoe and kissing him on the cheek. "And you Harry-"

Ron seemed to come to himself slightly as they walked back across the Great Hall. He touched the spot on his face here Hermione had kissed him, looking puzzled, as though he was not quite sure what had just happened.


*sigh...*

Drizella
08-04-2003, 06:15 PM
It's pretty apparent that Ron and Hermione are in an exclusive relationship in book 5 (well, Ron namely) They just don't know it yet. I just love Ron's complete indignation during the scene where Hermione's writing to Krum. He's so jealous and he doesn't even realize it! :p

ChianaWeasley
08-04-2003, 09:22 PM
"Ohyes, Vicky, I'll reckon you kept up all summer didn't you?!"

I love it when he gets shrill, I can just picture it!

Drizella
08-04-2003, 10:01 PM
I love Ron's line: (I'm paraphrasing) 'He didn't just want to be penpals with you, you know!'

Oh, Ron. Protective Ron. Swoon!

Also--whaddayou reckon the odds are for Draco liking Hermione? There're some subtleties there that are worth exploring... Not that anything would ever work between them!

Fleurdelacour
08-05-2003, 03:30 PM
*sigh* Ron..... :swoon:

Draco and Hermione? noo..... He's just a bulling !!!!... He's a prejudice little brat... There is no way they'd ever date... *shudder*

I'd love to read more about the Marauder's and their love lifes... We know James was obsessed with Lily, but she didn't exactly like him in return. Did Snape fancy Lily? What about Remus and Sirius? Did they have a secret relationship that'd make me very happy? :D

*sigh*

Marchwarden
08-05-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Drizella
I love Ron's line: (I'm paraphrasing) 'He didn't just want to be penpals with you, you know!'

Oh, Ron. Protective Ron. Swoon!

Also--whaddayou reckon the odds are for Draco liking Hermione? There're some subtleties there that are worth exploring... Not that anything would ever work between them!

I can't see him fancying a muggle-born girl.

However, if Ginny blossoms into a fiery-haired beauty, I can see him professing contempt and disinterest...and then sneaking long furtive glances.

ChianaWeasley
08-05-2003, 10:53 PM
The hate between the two of them is too strong, especially after he called her a mudblood and threatens her regularly about the death eaters and such. I NEVER want to see the two of them end up together. I like it in fan fiction, but not in the book itself.

ah yes...protective Ron....I'm still searching for the real life Ron Weasley :p

I've always wondered about the idea of Ron as the man in the black mask, and Hermione being the fair princess captured by a sicilian, a giant, and a spaniard :D

Fleurdelacour
08-05-2003, 11:46 PM
Ah... the real life Ron Weasley... Red hair is deceptive!! I only went out with him because he hadred hair... he dyed it blue, and changed into a possessive freak... :rolleyes:

Ginny is already a firey-haired beauty! :D She was amazing in OotP! But I don't think Draco would go for a poor lass... Even if she was pure-blood...

Marchwarden
08-05-2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
The hate between the two of them is too strong, especially after he called her a mudblood and threatens her regularly about the death eaters and such. I NEVER want to see the two of them end up together. I like it in fan fiction, but not in the book itself.

ah yes...protective Ron....I'm still searching for the real life Ron Weasley :p

I've always wondered about the idea of Ron as the man in the black mask, and Hermione being the fair princess captured by a sicilian, a giant, and a spaniard :D

Draco's a lot less appealing nowadays anyway. He used to have a sort of sinister charm, but he's turning into comic relief. You can only foil Lord Voldemort so many times before Draco's threats start to sound a bit hollow. I'm sorry, but if you want to be evil yet strangely alluring, you can't come across as dense.

Drizella
08-06-2003, 04:54 PM
Draco's a lot less appealing nowadays anyway.
Yeah, I'm *really* hoping Draco's role matures in the coming books. He doesn't scare Harry anymore, and therefore his 'powers' if you will, aren't threatening. He should be taking after his dad a bit more in this area. He should be cunning and devious in a less obvious sort of way if he really wants revenge on Harry, (which I'm sure he'll be seeking to do in the next book).

And I like how you said he had 'sinister charm', Marchwarden---I'd say that's the perfect way to describe him, at least in the beginning of the series. He needs to get that back again. Darco's got the potential to be very scary, he just needs to become more sophisticated as a villian!

And I wasn't actually serious about the Draco/Hermione thing. It was a stretch, I know... Hermione is so going to be with Ron. :p

ChianaWeasley
08-06-2003, 08:16 PM
Now that is the spirit Drizella!!!

Ron and Hermione are meant to be together. And good ole' Draco, well he'll end up with someone horrid like Millicent. But then again he doesn't even deserve someone like her.:p

Marchwarden
08-07-2003, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Fleurdelacour
Ginny is already a firey-haired beauty! :D She was amazing in OotP! But I don't think Draco would go for a poor lass... Even if she was pure-blood...

The Malfoys already have plenty of money. In fact, they're quite conscious of it. Hmmm...Draco begins to fancy Ginny, decides to approach her, and is totally confident of success. After all, how could a girl not jump at the chance to leave squalor and poverty behind and be introduced to the elite element of society?

And he'll be so baffled when she turns him down flat...

ChianaWeasley
08-07-2003, 07:30 PM
Quite a nasty little shock for mr. Malfoy I would say.
Ginny would NEVER in a million years consider Draco...well unless he cast a spell on her...or a love drought...he'd be low enough to do it.

Perhaps Ginny should take a page from Moody's book, carry around a hip flask.:p

Fleurdelacour
08-07-2003, 10:47 PM
I know the Malfoys are rich... Hench why I said he wouldn't go for a poor girl. Maybe Draco has been set certain rules about who he is aloud to marry... Like only rich pure-bloods, and he'd get punished, or shunned out of the family... I wonder why my parents woul say if I married a black man, or an enlgish man... hmmm...

Maybe Ginny's full name suggests something... Virgina. Is she destined to be a virgin all her life, even though she's getting more action then Ron! Is she gonna pop her cogs in a future books?...

Drizella
08-07-2003, 11:07 PM
I've always been a little concerned, if you can call it that, about Draco's future romances. I mean, there aren't too many more pure-bloods left in the wizarding world, and there must be a lot of pressure on the Malfoys to carry on their pure-blood name, especially since they've got one son. As far as we know!

He'll probably hook up with Pansy Parkinson, but what are the odds that they'll all marry out of Hogwarts? Where will Draco find his pure-blood wife? Will he find one? And as much of a prat that he might be, somehow I can't really picture him rebelling against his familiy like that. He's quite obedient for a bully.

Virginia Weasley. I had never thought about her full name before.
And she's definitely getting more action than anyone in the series! :p

Kristin
08-08-2003, 12:53 AM
Nah, I think it was Percy. He is, after all, the only one who was "walked in on" in an unused classroom. :p

I love Ginny, and I want her to have a wonderful relationship. If not with Harry then with someone who deserves her!

Ron and Hermione are just too cute! I love Ron. I'm on the Ron/Hermione bandwagon. (Although, I have to admit that one of the PoA pictures goes a long way toward almost making me a Harry/Hermione shipper. :o)


I don't think JKR would ever make her characters "out." Even if certain characters are possibly gay, I don't think it's ever going to be mentioned. And it's probably not that she has anything against gay relationships, but I can't see such a relationship being relevant to the story. And a non-relevant relationship (whether straight or gay) would only distract people from the story -- not a good thing.

ChianaWeasley
08-09-2003, 04:48 PM
I loathe Percy. Percy is no longer a Weasley in my opinion:mad:. Stinky little git!

I must agree with you on the PoA picture with Harry and Hermione, ahh.....to be Hermione. I must say I'm jealous, BUT not jealous of the outfit :p ;)

It would be great and open of Rowling to write a gay character, but it has nothing to do with the plot I guess. And it would cause alot of problems :rolleyes: you all know how some people can be, sad but it's true.

Ron and Hermione!!!
They will be together
just you watch :D

Fleurdelacour
08-09-2003, 05:00 PM
Blah... Percy.... :rolleyes:

The Christian Fundamentalists would go beserk if there was a gay character in Harry Potter, they wouldn't know what hit them ;) In fact, she should just do it in spite of them!

Yes, yes yes Chiana... They will be together!

Imagine their kids! red bushy hair! :D

ChianaWeasley
08-09-2003, 10:36 PM
Yes! Red bushy hair, playing with uncle Harry in the backyard with their toy nimbus 2008s. Adorable!Meant to happen, no arguing thank you! :p

Fleurdelacour
08-09-2003, 11:50 PM
*sigh* that'd just be adorable! *squeaks*

Honestly, those Harry/Hermione shippers don't know what they're on about! :p

ChianaWeasley
08-16-2003, 05:14 PM
Well, they can have their hopes too:)
BUT I know Ron and Hermione are the ones who will end up together. No doubt in my mind about those two:D

Fleurdelacour
08-16-2003, 05:35 PM
Ah Ron and Hermione.... The perfect couple! :D

My friend reckons they were secretly dating in OotP!

Kristin
08-16-2003, 06:04 PM
I heard somewhere (and this theory makes sense) that Ron and Hermione actually were dating in OotP, but we just don't know about it because the book is from Harry's perspective (and Harry's concentrating on himself and his own troubles and kind of ignoring other things around him). :D :p

Fenchurch
08-16-2003, 06:18 PM
VERY interesting theory, Kristin - I'll agree with it. ;) What were they doing all those long summer days in 12 Grimmauld Place before Harry arrived, anyway?

Fleurdelacour
08-16-2003, 06:18 PM
That's what my friend said! :) Because it's all in Harry's perspective. JKR did say there was something going on in GoF, but Ron didn't realise, but Hermione's kiss may have given him a kick in the right direction....

So she didn't go completely barmy in Cypus!

ChianaWeasley
08-16-2003, 10:20 PM
No, we'd know about it, Rowling would include that. I think maybe we're just over analyzing things.

But I would like to know what they were doing when it was just the two of them :o

Fleurdelacour
08-17-2003, 11:03 AM
Over anylyzing gives us hope :p

Surely they did more then cleaning... And what about Remus and Sirius?! Remus was staying with Sirius for all those months... And Sirius was told to lie low at Lupin's... They just belonged together.... *sigh*

PhineasNigellus
08-17-2003, 02:50 PM
james potter would turn in his grave if he ever heard you say that!

ChianaWeasley
08-17-2003, 10:22 PM
Well you never know...;)

Oh, I'm positive they did more then cleaning.
I'd bet my broomstick they did a whole bit more
:devil:

Fleurdelacour
08-17-2003, 10:55 PM
Do you even have a broomstick to bet with? :p

They didn't specify what cleaning they were doing... ok, I'll get banned if I type what I'm thinking! :LOL:

But if it was true, James would be the gay-mates best friend. Hell I'm in a very camp mood... Watched six feet under, then top ten camp icons, so verrryyy camp!

That's better. I'm just convinced Remus and Sirius were together! Moony and Sirius - written in the stars!! Both canine! SOUL MATES I TELLS YA!!

ChianaWeasley
08-18-2003, 10:52 AM
As a matter of fact I do not have a broomstick...but when I finally get one I'll bet it on them doing more then cleaning:D

I don't really see Remus and Severus together, just click in my mind. I could be wrong, and I could be right. But hey thats the 50/50 chance with everything :)

Neville needs a girl, a nice pretty one, whose a bit clumsy. Hmm....if only Tonks was still in Hogwarts, and their age. They'de be perfect for one another. Seriously, I could see Neville and Tonk together if they were the same age. How very interesting...:p

Fleurdelacour
08-18-2003, 03:54 PM
Remus and Snape?! Noooo...... That slimeball with my werewolf?

Neville has to get the girl! :D Maybe Luna, perhaps... I love Luna :)

Of course they did more then cleaning, all that tension! I mean LOOK AT THESE!!

warning though, immense squealing follows:

http://www.artdungeon.net/doodles/rhr_commonroom.jpg

http://www.artdungeon.net/doodles/embracerh.jpg

and this actually happened!

http://www.artdungeon.net/ootp/phoenix08.jpg

I just looove that bit so much!! :D *hugs page 358*

edit:

oh... I just had a really fluffy thought! Hedwig was pecking Ron and Hermione's fingers... Hermione could have tended to Ron's bleeding fingers... and they could have had a moment, but maybe Hedwig started to attack them again... yeah its like 2.20am... i make sense right? it happened!!

ChianaWeasley
08-21-2003, 09:46 PM
That is the fluffiest moment!!!!
And I cant help but love it, oh no, whats happened to me?! ;)
hmm...this gives me an idea

secret, secret, I got a secret...

:p

Bellatrix_Lestrange
08-23-2003, 08:58 PM
RW/HG is pretty strongly hinted at, more so than any other HG ship.

The real puzzle is GW/HP vs. GW/NL.

GW/HP: Ron obviously favors seeing his sister choose Harry. She certainly had a crush on him which she seems to have outgrown...but what did Hermione say about why girls make boys jealous sometimes?

GW/NL: Neville's had, at the very least, chivalrous impulses regarding Ginny for some time. Since Ginny was shrewd enough to recognize the changes in herself, she might be the sort to realize Neville isn't the joke he used to be. The only problem: Neville also seems to be headed for a hero's death.

Perhaps he finally works up the nerve to tell her how he feels, and Ginny must, as sensitively as possible, give him the "I like you as a friend" talk. Neville has never been less than gentlemanly to Ginny, so he accepts the deflection with as good grace as possible. Meanwhile, Neville has a lead to follow up for the DA - a back room on the second floor of the Hog's Head where suspected DEs met and may have left clues. En route he ruminates on the fact that the first girl he really fancied (indeed, the only girl he ever really fancied) will never be his. So it is that Neville's mood is rather perilous as he climbs the steps to the second floor. Just as he draws his wand to Alohomora the door, it is opened from the inside, as Neville finds himself staring into an all-too-familiar pair of dark eyes.

This time, Bellatrix won't know what hit her.
This time, Neville won't care what hits him.
And we can only hope that Ginny is sensible enough to understand that she is not to blame herself for what occurs.

And wouldn't it be tragic if, examining her feelings, she realizes only too late just how much she actually did care for Neville?

ChianaWeasley
08-23-2003, 10:22 PM
you know, I've never really thought about that up until now. Maybe Neville and ginny are a possibility....after all you are right when you say Neville has made numerous approaches for Ginny. Very subtle, but still.....

And it saddens me that Harry and ginny could end up together, for Neville's sake. Neville may really, really like ginny. And Harry didn't even want Harry in the beginning, but thats how love is sometimes for people.

It stinks I know

But Neville is going to sky rocket into puberty in the next book!!!
And just you wait Henry Higgins, just you wait!!!

:p

Bellatrix_Lestrange
08-23-2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
you know, I've never really thought about that up until now. Maybe Neville and ginny are a possibility....after all you are right when you say Neville has made numerous approaches for Ginny. Very subtle, but still.....

And it saddens me that Harry and ginny could end up together, for Neville's sake. Neville may really, really like ginny. And Harry didn't even want Harry in the beginning, but thats how love is sometimes for people.

Do you know what I'd like to see? Neville getting the tradiotional dressing-down from his grandma, and Ginny losing her temper. Having inherited Molly's spirit, she would stand her ground before the old crone and spell out in no uncertain terms just what kind of heroic acts Neville's been up to: rushing to save Harry when he was facing ten Death Eaters, fighting off the IS, that sort of thing. Grandma will be taken aback; it's been years since anyone stood up to her. Neville wil be thunderstruck; in fact, this may be the moment in which he begins to find the courage to confess his affection.

Marchwarden
08-24-2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
you know, I've never really thought about that up until now. Maybe Neville and ginny are a possibility....after all you are right when you say Neville has made numerous approaches for Ginny. Very subtle, but still.....

And it saddens me that Harry and ginny could end up together, for Neville's sake. Neville may really, really like ginny. And Harry didn't even want Harry in the beginning, but thats how love is sometimes for people.

It stinks I know

But Neville is going to sky rocket into puberty in the next book!!!
And just you wait Henry Higgins, just you wait!!!

:p

My question is: does Neville truly care about Ginny personally, or is he just desperate to be somebody's hero? They are awfully young, and by definition don't know each other well (even if you knew someone as a child, you may be surprised by the adult they become). Will Neville be able to shake off the "Neville the loser" image that's been fixed in so many people's heads.

And B_L, the idea of Neville suffering unrequited love for Ginny, and having her realize after he dies a hero's death that she did love him in return but never brought herself to admit it because "he's Neville"...is truly depressing. But if it were done right, it would make for fine tragedy.

ChianaWeasley
08-24-2003, 10:26 PM
Tragedy-shmagedy!

Neville will confess his love to her, wisp her off her feet, take her to the astromony tower....and prove his true feelings for her.

Bellatrix_Lestrange
08-25-2003, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
Tragedy-shmagedy!

Neville will confess his love to her, wisp her off her feet, take her to the astromony tower....and prove his true feelings for her.

I'm conflicted, I admit. Neville obviously fancies Ginny, and he's so chivalrous and yet shy at the same time - he'll rush to her defense against the entire IS, but asking her for a date seems almost beyond him. It's sweet. He deserves someone, especially someone plucky who will bolster his emerging confidence and counteract the effect of his Gran's constant put-downs. And so, for Neville's sake, I hope she notices him and begins to reciprocate his feelings.

On the other hand, Neville has I'M DOOMED written all over him - and I wouldn't be surprised if he met his fate saving Ginny from danger. It will be hard enough for her to mourn a valiant friend; I wouldn't want to inflict a lost love on her. So, for Ginny's sake, I hope she's spared the added grief, and never discovers how much he cared for her.

Little Miss
08-25-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Bellatrix_Lestrange

On the other hand, Neville has I'M DOOMED written all over him

:rotfl:

Fleurdelacour
08-25-2003, 01:20 PM
Neville wont die... He's going to become the Herbeology teacher. JKR has hinted he might. Pah none of you read chat transcripts do you ;) :p

That theory kinda sounds like Beauty and The Beast... Gascon 'killed' Beast, then Belle realised how much she loved him... but then he changed into a human, an the rest is a Disney ending!

Little Miss
08-25-2003, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Fleurdelacour
Neville wont die... He's going to become the Herbeology teacher. JKR has hinted he might. Pah none of you read chat transcripts do you ;) :p


no, thats what you're here for!

ChianaWeasley
08-27-2003, 08:02 PM
Saving Ginny from danger....thats so heroic....

hey! shouldn't that be Harry?....

But with Neville, oh! I'd date Neville in a second if he were as sweet to me as he is to ginny all the time :o

Bellatrix_Lestrange
10-11-2003, 01:17 AM
Draco...Draco...I've got it!

The forces of light win the Second War. The Malfoys are on pretty precarious ground; Lucius is in Azkaban, their holdings and assets are all frozen pending investigation and they are on the brink of social ostracism. Narcissa takes Draco aside and explains that it is time for Plan B...

Narcissa will publically express her shock (shock, I say!) and disbelieving horror - to think that her very own husband had been consorting with Dark Wizards! After pinning everything on Lucius, she will tearfully express her hope that the wizarding world will not be too blinded by prejudice to realize that her young boy is really just a tragically conflicted child. Draco wanted to be a good son, wanted his father to be proud of him; should he be condemned for filial loyalty? And yet, at the same time, part of him realized that the role his father was foisting upon him was...wrong.

And right on cue, paparazzi will catch him on the French Riviera, courting (in the most gentlemanly, sincere manner imaginable) a blushing, smiling young lady. She'll be beautiful and innocent, a daughter of a highly-regarded family. Moreover, those who suspect the Malfoys of continuing to harbour pureblood-supremacist ideas will be quelled; although her lineage is indeed impressive, she isn't technically 100% pureblood - in fact, she's not even 100% human.

Draco won't mind playing along with Mummy's little setup. He gets the family assets (to which he is sole heir) unstuck, he gets to milk the sympathy angle until his social appeal exceeds what his father had at his peak; he gets to convey the impression that the only reason Potter & Co. kicked his butt seven years running was that he subconsciously hated being a bad guy and secretly wanted to be defeated; he gets a perfect-skinned, sparkling-eyed, lissome young one-quarter-veela hottie for a bride, and all he needs to do is pretend to the world that he absolutely, selflessly, truly does love Gabrielle Delacour.

This, of course, gives us a wonderful nemesis character for our "Hogwarts:The Next Generation"-era fanfics:

Lucrezia Juliette-Justine Malfoy. Slytheriness. Devastatingly attractive, irresistibly charming, a one-eighth trace of veela ancestry adding a little extra kick to her already incomparable natural gifts...

She has great skill at witchcraft. She has money. She has friends.

She also has, artfully concealed within her flawless maidenly bosom, a heart colder than a basilisk's. Not that that last bit is common knowledge.

Oh, yes.

ChianaWeasley
10-12-2003, 06:05 PM
Woah. :eek:

Don't know if i can beat that one ;)

Melpomene
10-12-2003, 11:27 PM
Hmm...

Lucrezia (spelled Italian-style with a 'z' instead of Latin-style with a 't') puts me in mind of Lucrezia Borgia, the role model for nefarious daughters of villainous, scheming power-hungry families since the Renaissance.

And Juliette-Justine? Weren't Juliette and Justine the title characters of the Marquis de Sade's most infamous novels? Those works were suppressed for centuries in every civilized nation. Very few are familiar with them. One wonders, Bellatrix, how you happen to know of them...(arches eyebrow)

Bellatrix_Lestrange
10-13-2003, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by Melpomene
Weren't Juliette and Justine the title characters of the Marquis de Sade's most infamous novels? Those works were suppressed for centuries in every civilized nation. Very few are familiar with them. One wonders, Bellatrix, how you happen to know of them...(arches eyebrow)

One wonders, Melpomene, how you recognized them...(arches eyebrow right back)

Melpomene
10-14-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Bellatrix_Lestrange
you

One wonders, Melpomene, how you recognized them...(arches eyebrow right back)

Psych major, lit minor. My purposes were strictly academic.

Your excuse?

Bellatrix_Lestrange
10-14-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Melpomene
Psych major, lit minor. My purposes were strictly academic.

Your excuse?

As Hermione would say, a little light reading.

ChianaWeasley
10-19-2003, 11:26 AM
Definatley ron and Hermione. Yep, I'm positive those two will have some hot upcoming scenes :p

Fleurdelacour
10-19-2003, 04:07 PM
I feel so proud! :D Goblet of Fire, which includes the oh-so-famous Yule Ball argument, is on the top 21 books as voted or by the great British public! :D

It's just meant to be....

ChianaWeasley
10-19-2003, 09:55 PM
Of course it's meant to be, it's the most adorablely frustrating scene of all time :o :p

Is it odd that I find arguing between two people who are smitten over each other but they don't realize it yet, adorabley frustrating?
:rolleyes:

Fleurdelacour
10-21-2003, 04:47 PM
Oh it's more then adorably fustrating. Its enough to make you squeal and throw the book down and scream and cry (yes... I got teary when Hermione kissed Ron on the cheek, oh I'm getting squealy thinking about it!)

Oh! There's a song on the new Strokes album called Between Hate and Love, and there's a bit that goes:

"Thinking about the high school dance,
Worrying about the finals
Yes I know
You're feeling lonely
Oh So lonely."

High School dance = Yule Ball

Finals = OWLS or end of year tests

Hermione feeling lonely in PoA when Harry and Ron arent talking to her over the Firebolt and Scabbers...

Does Julian Casablanca and co, secrelty ship R/H? :D Or am I well and truely obsessed?!...

ChianaWeasley
10-21-2003, 05:38 PM
It sounds to me like you're digging a little too deep for meaning my friend :) ;) Not that obsessions are nessacarily bad....;)

Well I love writing and reading about R/H ships

And yes they do make you squeal, and trust me when I say, Im NOT the type of girl to squeal. But that makes me get all girly, not that thats a bad thing once in a while.

I'd like to see some more Neville and Ginny shippings around here...:D

Melpomene
10-26-2003, 12:39 PM
Chiana, I love your phrase "adorably frustrating"; that's precisely what makes even mature, non-mushy females squeal and flutter over RW/HG interaction.

Being a relative newcomer, I only just read through this thread last night. It's kind of cute to see how the NL/GW ship has gradually picked up momentum. I have nothing against Harry, but the more I return to those little moments where Neville's actions hint toward his unspoken yet steadfast feelings for Ginny, it's just so heartrendingly pure and gentle and kind of sad - he's been a nobody all his life, and while he knows he's unlikely to ever have his feelings reciprocated, that doesn't stop him from treating her like a princess, not because he expects any reward but simply because he believes from the heart that that's what she deserves.

I agree with Bellatrix that Neville would lay down his life for her without hesitation, but I agree with Chiana that he'd better not have to. A close call that causes Ginny to finally realize what's been hidden in plain view all along would be better.

Bellatrix_Lestrange
10-26-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
Well I love writing and reading about R/H ships

And we all love reading about the R/H ships you write.:notworthy

I'd like to see some more Neville and Ginny shippings around here...:D

Hmmm...

Neville/Ginny: After many nail-biting hints that Neville will face heartbreak and/or death, Ginny will have an epiphany at almost the last instant, and they will walk free, together, from beneath the shadow of despair, weeping tears of joy.

Ron/Hermione: Obvious to everyone in the Wizarding World, except for Ron and Hermione. I do rather like CW's interpretation of how Luna's fond attitude toward Ron might be the trigger for Hermione to finally get onto a proper war footing.

Cho/The Giant Squid: Why not? When you're underwater, nobody can tell if you're crying. Besides, Cho needs a strong, silent type to console her in his protective arms; you can't say he's not highly qualified on all counts. For his part, he's not likely to find her annoying; a species with suckers all over its limbs isn't likely to object to a clingy partner.

ChianaWeasley
10-26-2003, 09:49 PM
:LOL:

Cho/The Giant Squid: Why not? When you're underwater, nobody can tell if you're crying. Besides, Cho needs a strong, silent type to console her in his protective arms; you can't say he's not highly qualified on all counts. For his part, he's not likely to find her annoying; a species with suckers all over its limbs isn't likely to object to a clingy partner.

That is the greatest thing I've read all week Bellatrix!!!

I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels that cho is incredibly annoying and a water demon (hence all the crying):rolleyes:
I never liked Cho anyway, I always felt she got in between Ginny and Harry. :D

And the more i think about ginny and Neville, the more I think Ginny will have known all along. It will be one of those situations where she feels awkward about it, until she's until and it hits her. Neville has always been there for her, like you said Melpo, it's sweet, sincere, and soft. But it wont be sad :o :)

Kristin
10-26-2003, 09:58 PM
:clap: :LOL: I agree with Chiana. That's just brilliant, Bellatrix!


I could get on board with Neville/Ginny. Ginny has just become so cool. And Neville is great. When he started being one of the best DA members, I just wanted to cheer "Go Neville!" I just want good things to happen for both of them. :)

BloodFire
10-27-2003, 02:34 AM
Ya know, I was trying to remember Hermione's last name today and it kept eluding me. All I was getting was 'Hermione Weasley' which sounded perfectly natural. However, I knew that wasn't her maiden name and kept trying. I finally remembered it was Granger.

And that's my random HP madness for the week.

MarySueMalfoy
10-27-2003, 05:39 PM
Congratulations, Bellatrix. You found the one boyfriend for Cho who won't fear drowning in her nonstop lacrimations.

ChianaWeasley
11-01-2003, 10:41 AM
The only boyfriend for Cho would be the guy on the paper towel packaging. ;)

Bellatrix_Lestrange
11-01-2003, 10:08 PM
Curses! Beaten to the punch!

I was just surfing Fiction Alley and discovered that at least one person has already written a Cho/Giant Squid fic. I'll need to come up with something else for my next WAtSHS.

ChianaWeasley
11-02-2003, 07:20 PM
Are you actually SERIOUS?!

Whoa, maybe more people have put thought into the relationship then just us, :LOL:

Bellatrix_Lestrange
11-02-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
Are you actually SERIOUS?!

Whoa, maybe more people have put thought into the relationship then just us, :LOL:

Absolutely dead serious. Can't link it directly (the story itself is PG, but not everything on FA is); if I see it archived on a PG-and-under site I'll add a link.

MarySueMalfoy
11-04-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Bellatrix_Lestrange
Absolutely dead serious. Can't link it directly (the story itself is PG, but not everything on FA is); if I see it archived on a PG-and-under site I'll add a link.

No offense, B_L, but with a username like yours, I'd recommend avoiding phrases like absolutely dead 'serious'. Some people on this forum are still a tad sensitive...

ChianaWeasley
11-04-2003, 05:43 PM
In response to your sig marysue....

That seems to be something a young teenage boy would say, he'd rather his character killed off before he actually had to kiss a female counter lead. :LOL: Bet he really would want an excuse to kiss a girl, they always do :p

Kristin
11-04-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by MarySueMalfoy
No offense, B_L, but with a username like yours, I'd recommend avoiding phrases like absolutely dead 'serious'. Some people on this forum are still a tad sensitive...

:rotfl:


In response to the Cho/Giant Squid thing: Well I think there's so much fan fiction out there that you'd be hard-pressed to find a pairing that had not been done before. Nevertheless, I'm still shocked that somebody else came up with the Cho/Squid pairing.

MarySueMalfoy
11-04-2003, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
In response to your sig marysue....

That seems to be something a young teenage boy would say, he'd rather his character killed off before he actually had to kiss a female counter lead. :LOL: Bet he really would want an excuse to kiss a girl, they always do :p

And in Daniel's defense, when he said that he'd just finished PoA, so he had no knowledge of Miss Waterworks' actual personality.

Melpomene
11-05-2003, 02:56 PM
I found the Cho/Squid fic too. The title is "Wet Dreams".

BTW, this is secondhand, but according to FAP, JKR has stated in an interview that Harry will have a girlfriend in future, and that she will be "someone who's been there from the beginning". That's a bit vague, but if that means "was introduced in the first book", that would be:

Hermione
Ginny
Lavender
One of the Patils
One of the Gryffindor Chasers
One of the Slytherinesses
Something Truly Unexpected (Minerva is de-age-ified to 16; Hedwig turns out to be an Animagus, a male character gets transformed into a female etc.)

Fleurdelacour
11-05-2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Melpomene
I found the Cho/Squid fic too. The title is "Wet Dreams".


:LOL: Really?! Christ, this person really has their finger pressing all the right keys!

Mmm... I hope its not Ginny or Hermione... Ginny is destined for Neville, and Hermione, well... we all know where she's headed ;)

Melpomene
11-05-2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Fleurdelacour
Mmm... I hope its not Ginny or Hermione... Ginny is destined for Neville, and Hermione, well... we all know where she's headed ;)

True, but 'girlfriend' doesn't mean 'life partner'. As has been stated on this thread, teen romances often prove to be learning experiences rather than permanent attachments.

A good coming-of-age teen-angst subplot would be if Harry and Hermione dated for a while in sixth year. They both grow to realize that, while they like and respect each other greatly, they really don't connect romantically - but each is unwilling to hurt the other by breaking things off. Meanwhile, Ron is conflicted because he genuinely wants to be happy for his friends, but is surprised to feel anguish deep inside; only when he sees Hermione and Harry together does he finally realize his own feelings for her.

Eventually, Harry and Hermione will find a way to separate amicably and remain friends, and Ron and Hermione will get together with Harry's blessing - but it will put their bonds of friendship and strength of character to the test, and passing that test will signify that they are no longer children, but emerging adults who are beginning to take adult responsibility for their feelings.

Fleurdelacour
11-05-2003, 04:26 PM
Mmmm... You've got a good point... But Harry doesnt have any feelings for Hermione. None at all, apart from friendship ones. And Hermione's behavior obvioisly suggests she has feelings for Ron... So why would that go out together in the first place?

ChianaWeasley
11-05-2003, 06:09 PM
Ginny!!! It's got to be ginny!!!!

Oh joy :D


I don't nessacarily think it will put their friendship to the test, because Harry would want ron and Hermione to get together. Just like Ron presses the idea of Harry and ginny, at that no ones else will do for his little sister.

Bellatrix_Lestrange
11-05-2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
Ginny!!! It's got to be ginny!!!!

Oh joy :D


I don't nessacarily think it will put their friendship to the test, because Harry would want ron and Hermione to get together. Just like Ron presses the idea of Harry and ginny, at that no ones else will do for his little sister.

Well, if Harry and Hermione started dating and Ron hadn't spoken up, his friendship with both of them would probably dissuade him from declaring his own feelings. And H&H's respect for each other would make it hard for either one to break things off. They'd all be friends at the end, but it would be awkward at times until all three found the courage to be totally honest about their emotions.

I don't want to sound cruel, but if it's Ginny, I'd almost hope Neville doesn't survive. I'd actually rather see Neville as a martyr to the cause than have him live out a lonely, heartbroken existence without his one true love ever even realizing how much he cared about her. Dammit, JKR, he's been rejected and ignored all his life, and he deserves better! Either let him get the girl or at least give him the dignity of heroic self-sacrifice!

Ayla
11-08-2003, 10:01 AM
poor poor neville --- you got me sniffing by saying all that tear-jerking stuff about my lovely soft-cheeked boy,,,,, sniff, oh neville-- may yer one true love open up her eyes and look beyond the sellulite.... ;) :kiss:

Bellatrix_Lestrange
11-09-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
I've always wondered about the idea of Ron as the man in the black mask, and Hermione being the fair princess captured by a sicilian, a giant, and a spaniard :D

HERMIONE: "Every owl except your four fastest, you mean."

DRACO: "Erm, excuse me?"

HERMIONE: "The four you sent..."

DRACO: "Oh...yes. Naturally, not those four."

HERMIONE: "You never sent those owls."

DRACO: (looks uncomfortable)

HERMIONE: "It doesn't matter. My Weasley will come for me anyway."

DRACO: (coldly) "Your Weasley is dead. I killed him myself."

HERMIONE: "Then why do I see fear behind your eyes?"

Marchwarden
11-10-2003, 01:51 PM
Re: Bellatrix's The Mudblood Bride

:rotfl:

This could certainly be expanded upon over on Tales of Howarts and Beyond. Perhaps as a team effort.

ChianaWeasley
11-10-2003, 06:39 PM
It's the most brilliant beyond brilliant idea I've read all day! And it's been an interesting day ;) , I love it, you should write a parody. I'm sure there are dozens everywhere you look online.There's a cho/squid ship, then by goddess theres a Mudblood Bride fic. :rotfl:

MarySueMalfoy
11-13-2003, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
It's the most brilliant beyond brilliant idea I've read all day! And it's been an interesting day ;) , I love it, you should write a parody. I'm sure there are dozens everywhere you look online.There's a cho/squid ship, then by goddess theres a Mudblood Bride fic. :rotfl:

I found one, but I don't know if it would suit you (Draco as the farmboy and Ginny as the PB...).

So much of the dialogue doesn't even need changing:

"No...he was poor. Poor and perfect, with eyes like the sea after a storm..."

ChianaWeasley
11-16-2003, 01:39 PM
Well, it's close, but no cigar my friend ;)

It has to be:
Ron as the farm boy....
Hermione as the fair buttercup....
Draco as the evil Humperdink.....
Harry as the sword slashing, Spaniard Inedgo Montoya....
Neville as the rhyming giant Fezzik.....
Dumbledore as the deaf mumbling king.....
professor MacGonagoll as the queen.....
Snape as the count with six fingers....


hmmm.....

alright if noone else is going to take this very serious situation into their own hands, then perhaps I will :D

TO THE FAN FICTIONS BOARD!!!!
:swoon:

Bellatrix_Lestrange
11-16-2003, 03:36 PM
HERMIONE: On the high seas your ship attacked; and the Dread Pirate Roberts, as mentioned in 'Piracy: A History", never takes prisoners...

******

ZABINI: "But first, let's eat. You from your plate, I from mine."

(Zabini and Weasley eat their pizza slices)

WEASLEY: "You chose wrong."

ZABINI: "HA! You only think so! I switched slices when your back was turned! You've fallen for one of the classic blunders. The first is: 'never get involved in a land war in Atlantis', but only slightly less well known is: 'never go in against a Death Eater when a Sicilian pizza is on the line'! Ah ha ha! AH HA HA HA! AH..." *THUD*

HERMIONE: "So all along it was your slice that was poisoned..."

WEASLEY: "They were both poisoned. I've spent the last several years developing an immunity to all the things Fred and George keep slipping into my food."

******

Hmmm...

It's hard for me not to see Hagrid as the giant, but I suppose you want to keep the relative ages correct.

That said, maybe Grawp could work...he's supposedly shaping up nicely by the end of OotP, and perhaps rhyming proves to be a useful teaching aid for improving his English.

Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
Well, it's close, but no cigar my friend ;)

It has to be:
Ron as the farm boy....
Hermione as the fair buttercup....
Draco as the evil Humperdink.....
Harry as the sword slashing, Spaniard Inedgo Montoya....
Neville as the rhyming giant Fezzik.....
Dumbledore as the deaf mumbling king.....
professor MacGonagoll as the queen.....
Snape as the count with six fingers....


hmmm.....

alright if noone else is going to take this very serious situation into their own hands, then perhaps I will :D

TO THE FAN FICTIONS BOARD!!!!
:swoon:

ChianaWeasley
11-16-2003, 07:44 PM
:o :eek: :o :eek:

Oh i love it!!!

But one little detail, he can't mention his family, because buttercup doesn't know yet that he's infact the farm boy, her long lost love :)

But i really like it!

Props Bellatrix!
:beer:

Bellatrix_Lestrange
11-21-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
But one little detail, he can't mention his family, because buttercup doesn't know yet that he's infact the farm boy, her long lost love :)

There is that.

Hmmm...the three perils of the Forbidden Forest....

HERMIONE: "What about the SOUSes?"

RON: "Spiders of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist -"

Marchwarden
12-06-2003, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Bellatrix_Lestrange
There is that.

Hmmm...the three perils of the Forbidden Forest....

HERMIONE: "What about the SOUSes?"

RON: "Spiders of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist -"

How about Spidery Creatures Of Unusual Size (apologies to Liverpudlians on this board)?

HARRY: "I swear on the soul of my father, James Potter: you will reach the top alive."

WEASLEY: "Throw me the rope."

MarySueMalfoy
12-09-2003, 01:30 PM
This is all bloody brilliant. Anyone want to do "Purebloods of the Caribbean"?

In other news, the JKR quotes I've scrounged up do indeed all but spell out RW/HG - not necessarily as a forever-after thing, but *something* at least will happen between them. In fact, JKR has actually stated that there *is* something between them, but that Ron hasn't figured it out yet.

Oddly, this implies that Hermione *has* figured it out...

Dear Diary-

Have pledged heart to R. Will wait patiently for R. to develop sufficient emotional and social maturity to accept this situation. Suspect he did not take hint after Yule Ball. Perhaps Prefect status will accelerate maturation process. Continued jealousy toward V. extremely juvenile and frustrating, if slightly endearing as well. In unrelated matters, a certain dotty little blonde will most certainly be hexed the next time she flutters her dopey-looking eyelashes in R.'s direction.

ChianaWeasley
12-10-2003, 05:52 PM
We can all only hold our breath and hope, but we all know its a hop skip and jump away from impossible, Ron being a mature adult? I think not.

Melpomene
12-14-2003, 08:46 PM
I'm not sure it's that hopeless. Arthur has never given up his fascination with Muggle-stuff despite Molly's opinions on the subject, and this hasn't stopped him from being a good husband and father and a valuable member of the Order.

Men and women do not need to wholly abandon their boyish and girlish traits; they just need to find relationships wherein neither one accepts all the burdens of maturity and indulges the other's childishness.

This is why I have hope for Hermione and Ron. I don't think Ron is content to always let Hermione be the sensible, diligent one. I think he'd really like to see her relax a little. He may not be emotionally perceptive at a conscious level, but I think Ron senses that Hermione overachieves because, inside, she's insecure of her place as a dentist's daughter in a world of magic. I can't help but remember him in PS/SS: "ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT A WITCH?!" Hermione was doing most of the level-thinking-in-a-crisis, but it was Ron who reminded her that she's a magician, not just someone who dutifully reads a lot of books. He accepts the power in her more easily than she does (being from a wizarding family).

I realize that most of the time, Hermione seems to be the one doing all the work, but I bet that in the end, Ron will be as vital to Hermione's development as she's been to his.

MarySueMalfoy
01-01-2004, 01:05 AM
I'm not sure. I've been rereading the Gryffindor Common Room scene after Harry comes back from kissing Cho. 15-year old Hermione shows that, despite her brainiac reputation, she is both perceptive and understanding when it comes to emotional issues. 15-year-old Ron acts like a typical 13-year old boy, maybe worse.

She looks at him with deep disgust. She calls him the most insensitive wart she's ever had the misfortune to encounter. She says he has the emotional capacity of a teaspoon.

And later on, after Valentine's Day, to Cho-bewildered Harry:

"Oh, you're as bad as Ron...well, maybe not."

Ron has a lot of growing up to do.

I'm not saying it won't happen (in fact, I ship those two), and I'll admit that adolescent males can develop maturity of character with great rapidity...eventually. I'm just wondering how JKR will go about handling his transformation.

ChianaWeasley
01-01-2004, 01:50 PM
I'm alot like Ron, neither of us want to grow up really. Well...at least...I'm in no big hurry :LOL: And I think that his "childish spirit" and Hermione's level perspective balance one another out well.

Like I've said a hundred times on this site, opposites attract :D

Fleurdelacour
01-01-2004, 03:43 PM
Boys grow up at different stages during puberty... Ron's just a bit slow I guess :p I know seventeen year old lads who are really childish, I spent most of the day hitting him with roll of wrapping paper, immature seventeen year olds are fun to hit :p

Oh and they don't just attract Chiana, they get stuck together, forever!.... :p

MarySueMalfoy
01-01-2004, 04:49 PM
Wouldn't it be odd if the incident in the Brain Room affected Ron's, erm, degree of development?

After all, Ron hasn't been stupid; look at his chess-playing skills. There are simply ways of looking at a situation that don't occur to him, and certain subjects which he dismisses. When it comes to girls, "there's no understanding them; they're all barking".

What if the brain that sank its thoughts into him had belonged to a girl? Or an elderly person? What if Ron were suddenly, through mischance, able to see the world from a point of view other than that of a Quidditch-playing, class-skiving boy?

And which friend would he be most likely to talk to about "brain stuff"?

ChianaWeasley
01-02-2004, 11:41 AM
A very interesting and intruiging theory MarySue ::thumbs up::

I think with Ron, having a girl's thoughts and perspectives inside his head may confuse him even more.

And maybe, just maybe, he would go to professor Trelawny to help him sort things out........:D ....she is a woman after all, and was Hermione's age at one time. OR!!!! He goes to Luna to help him sort things out, and she takes him to Trelawny, because she of all people sees reasons in things others do not!

:eek:
takes a deep breath after spilling all that out

Fleurdelacour
01-02-2004, 12:48 PM
Isn't that what happened in that Mel Gibson film? That I havent seen, and avoid like the plague as I hate that man...

I feel like writing a Mary-Sue parody...

MarySueMalfoy
01-03-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Fleurdelacour
Isn't that what happened in that Mel Gibson film? That I havent seen, and avoid like the plague as I hate that man...

I feel like writing a Mary-Sue parody...

Ah, yes..."What Women Want".

Not quite, but something similar.

Bellatrix_Lestrange
01-04-2004, 11:28 PM
Not to stray too far off-topic, but whose brain do you think attacked Ron?

I love MSM's idea of it being a witch's; it would both provide humour and advance the plot if Ron were force-fed a little gender sensitivity.

But what if it were a Dark wizard's?

What if it were both?

What if it were Lucius Malfoy's mum's thoughts?

ChianaWeasley
01-06-2004, 09:45 PM
Maybe, it was just some old, random brain....or, maybe, it was the brain of the past owner; Abi Normal ;)

Anywho....since it was kept with all the other brains in the Ministry (of all places to keep a brain :rolleyes: ) perhaps it was the brain of a famous wizard. Or a particulary evil one, whose brain, was captured to study. Maybe they were even a Death Eater years ago....OR (small, brilliant thought)what if it was the brain of one of the House Founders?!?!

:eek:

To think...how interesting...

Fleurdelacour
01-07-2004, 03:12 PM
Or maybe, now here's an idea...

The brains might be Dumbledore's spare brains, incase he head a bit of a blow and gets amnesia, he has a new brain implanted, and now that Ron's teenage lad brain has infected it wont work on Dumbledore. Then Dumbledore is going to get amnesia x amount of times and his spare brain that attacked Ron won't work and the Dumbledore dies!

Or maybe not ;)

Or maybe, the brain was just a brain and it means nothing, and it was something totally random JKR thought up to make a gripping story :p

ChianaWeasley
01-07-2004, 05:37 PM
I must say, I absolutely adore your avatar Fleur.

When are those two going to come to their senses?

But for now, I'm satiating my appetite with fan fiction. And very good fiction I must say! One in particular, called Vie en La Rose, or something along those lines. And its years after they left Hogwarts, and hermione is living under a different identity, hiding from Ron. And he happens to be in Paris, and they meet.....don't know what all happens. But it's excellent:p

Fleurdelacour
01-08-2004, 02:40 PM
If it's set in Paris it must be good :p (yay, going back in easter! :D)

Ah cheers, I like my avatar too ;) And THAT kiss actually happened so :p to all you h/hr shippers!

Do any h/hr, r/? hr/?, shippers actually exsist? Because I've not seen any of them in a while...

Melpomene
01-08-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Fleurdelacour
And THAT kiss actually happened so :p to all you h/hr shippers!

Do any h/hr, r/? hr/?, shippers actually exist? Because I've not seen any of them in a while...

I think they're in retreat after OotP. The hints in GoF could have been a false trail, but now the fix is in.

I can see Ron chasing and/or dating someone else for awhile, but it would obviously be a short-term thing. I think that a boy like Ron would find a girl like Hermione very intimidating to ask out, and now that he's Quidditch King and prefect (and tall and filling out) there are probably going to be plenty of prospective girlfriends who are much lower-risk, since

a) they aren't also his friend, so if the relationship doesn't work there's no risk of losing years of cameraderie.

b) they aren't extremely brainy and mature-minded and inclined to treat him like a barely-housebroken puppy dog

c) they aren't the person he truly loves although he hasn't realized it yet; if he has to make a few mistakes in a first relationship, he won't want to make them with Hermione