who goes in which house

[PhineasNigellus]

through out the books Jk drops loads of names and gives us very few details about them. I thought it might interesting to try sorting some of them ourselves. Just for starters here is my list of randomish people :
1. Quirrell
2. Didalus Diggle
3. Tom (the inn keper from the leaky Cauldron)
4. Grubbly PLank
5. Bode
6. Assorted DEs (i mean can they all have been in Slytherin?)
7. Phineas Nigellus (the portrait and least popular headmaster)


Anyone got any suggestions??

[Pippin]

OK, I´ll go ahead and just guess!


Let´s give reasons for our guesses, too, ok? It´s more fun that way.



1. Quirrell Ravenclaw. Because I think he fell under Voldemort´s power because he was delving so deeply into the study of dark magic, wanted to find out secrets and accumulate knowledge and stuff. That sounds like a Ravenclaw to me.


2. Didalus Diggle That one just screams Hufflepuff! :D


3. Tom (the inn keper from the leaky Cauldron) Tom's probably a Squib. Inn keeping seems to be a job you can do without magical powers. And he´s also sort of guarding the gateway between the wizarding world and the Muggle world, so it´d be good to have someone for that who knows both worlds.


4. Grubbly PLank Hm. Maybe Hufflepuff, too. She´s so straightforward.


5. Bode Ravenclaw. Same reason as Quirrel: Love of studying and knowledge, he was working in the Dept. of Mysteries after all.


6. Assorted DEs (i mean can they all have been in Slytherin?) What about "There was no witch or wizard went bad that wasn´t in Slytherin" (Hagrid in HP PS)?


7. Phineas Nigellus (the portrait and least popular headmaster) I think it says somewhere in OOTP that he was in Slytherin. Or at least it says he´s wearing Slytherin colours or something.

[PhineasNigellus]

I think i agree with you about most of them (especially Didalus Diggle) although he was a member of the order so i kind of thought of him as a Neville character so *perhaps* a Gryff?



I like the idea that Tom is a Squib but i can't remember whether he had any cats (although i am not sure that it is compulsory for squibs to have them).



What about "There was no witch or wizard went bad that wasn´t in Slytherin" (Hagrid in HP PS)? I have a feeling that this is only in the film version but i may be wrong. Any way i am sure that Ravenclaw must have had some evil members...They just seem so similar to Slytherin most of the time....



Also the Quirrell theorey means that there was a bad / corupted Ravenclaw.

[Mirdan]

Originally posted by PhineasNigellus
I have a feeling that this is only in the film version but i may be wrong. Any way i am sure that Ravenclaw must have had some evil members...They just seem so similar to Slytherin most of the time....
they do seem to, don't they? if there's one house in Hogwarts that is anything more like Slytherin it'd have to be Ravenclaw. interesting how intelligence doesn't necessarily account for doing good deeds. it could even work both ways, come to think of it...


but then again, to me most of the Ravenclaws that we encounter in the book seem to be a bunch of snobs :p


Also the Quirrell theorey means that there was a bad / corupted Ravenclaw.
it's people's choices that make them who they are. which goes to show that everyone has the capacity to become bad and/or corrupted ;)


what about Tonks? she sounds like she came from Gryffindor. even Moody :D

is Flitwick really the head of Ravenclaw House? i would assume that he was a Ravenclaw, but did it say anywhere in the books that Flitwick is the head of Ravenclaw? i only read about that in the Harry Potter Lexicon.

I think it says somewhere in OOTP that he was in Slytherin. Or at least it says he´s wearing Slytherin colours or something.
Harry noticed that Phineas is wearing Slytherin colors in his portrait. i think it was in Dumbledore's office where Harry saw Phineas' clothes

[PhineasNigellus]

Harry noticed that Phineas is wearing Slytherin colors in his portrait. i think it was in Dumbledore's office where Harry saw Phineas' clothes

How horrifying i took my name from a Slytherin!!
:barf:

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Moody and Tonks have to be in Gryffindor. it would be just too wrong otherwise.

Flitwick seems to me to be one of the coolest Teachers in HP land (In th e books does it ever say he looks "facially deformed" like he is in the movies??) i think his Subject is by far the coolest.

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NEW SORTING:
1.Fudge
(does percy deserve to be a Gryff?)
2. Podmore
3. Aberforth Dumbledore (did he go to hogwarts?)
4. (can't think of any more right now...could anyone else make any suggestions?)

[Pippin]

by Phineas

I have a feeling that this is only in the film version but i may be wrong. You are. Ron says it in the movie just before the Sorting, but the line is taken from Hagrid, who says it in the book (I forgot the context). There has been much debate whether this is to be taken literally, meaning that ALL bad guys MUST, and CAN ONLY be Slytherins. I personally don´t think so, but it´s open to interpretation.


Sheesh Phineas, you should have checked on that before you registered. :p The Phineas Nigellus in the book is pretty funny though, I think.



by Mirdan

to me most of the Ravenclaws that we encounter in the book seem to be a bunch of snobs Well, I´ve got nothing against the Ravenclaws, really. But maybe that´s because I´m a snob. :p


by Mirdan

is Flitwick really the head of Ravenclaw House? i only read about that in the Harry Potter Lexicon.
Oh, I think the HP lexicon (which is usually a great source) jumped to a hasty conclusion there, just because Flitwick is one of the "main teachers" and seems to like learning and wisdom. It definitely doesn´t say anywhere in canon who´s the head of Ravenclaw.


Which doesn´t mean Flitwick can´t have been a Ravenclaw, of course.


I see Tonks as a Gryffindor, too, although I must say I dislike the notion that everyone in the Order HAS to be a Gryffindor. I like the new song of the Sorting Hat in OOTP and the fact that the DA has members from Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw as well. I´d like to think the Order was similar.


What about Trelawny? :D Definitely a Ravenclaw, isn´t she?

And what about Fudge? (He´s a Squib, I tell you! :p)

[Voronwe]

Originally posted by Pippin
Ravenclaw. Because I think he fell under Voldemort´s power because he was delving so deeply into the study of dark magic, wanted to find out secrets and accumulate knowledge and stuff. That sounds like a Ravenclaw to me.

So he's basically Saruman, huh? ;)

Does it say anywhere what house Dumbledore was in?

[Elwen]

they do seem to, don't they? if there's one house in Hogwarts that is anything more like Slytherin it'd have to be Ravenclaw. interesting how intelligence doesn't necessarily account for doing good deeds. it could even work both ways, come to think of it...



This strikes me as od. To me Gryffindor always seems closer to Slytherin. Being brave does not mean to be good, either.



Trelawny in Ravenclaw? Surely not! Squib or Hufflepuff, I'd say. Have we seen any magic from her (repairing broken tea cups or something)? Can't remember. Her main characteristic seems to be endurance and shere effort in the face of failure and humiliation. Hufflepuff, I'd say.



Where would Hagrid go? For some reason I'd also see him as a hufflepuff - his great stubborn love for his animals is such a Hufflepuff trait, I'd think. But then, he is very brave, too (although too mcuh in love with animals to have a need to be brave might also be an explanation).


Kingsley Shacklebolt has to be Gryffindor. And Mundungus fletcher, I think.

I would generally think that Gryffindor is the house most likely to produce Aurors (with some Ravenclaws for good measure - and the odd Slytherin??). :)


Fudge - an odd case. Have we reallz never seen him do magic? I can't remember... did he apparate somewhere? take things off other people, or fetch things (accio)? or did he light hsis wand (lumos) at some point? You know, daily life magic. I can't remember....

He doesn't strike me as a brave person. Neither is he very bright, IMHO.
He could be cunning and willing to use any mean justified by ends. He is the person to plod on with stuff - Slytherin or Hufflepuff. Difficult to say. We'll have to find out more.


Dumbledore - well, he is perhaps a bit like hermione. A Gryffindor who might as well have gone to Ravenclaw. But he is a house elf so he never went to school in the first place.

The problem with these judgements is that this iosn't easy to predict. Who would put Neville into Gryffindor even after book 5?!! It is harder with the grown-ups, even....

And if Percy Weasley and the other Weasleys are in the same house how can we tell?!!! (The Weaskeys may have sorted themselves into Gryffindor by default, of course! ).



Elwen

[Kristin]

Originally posted by Pippin
Oh, I think the HP lexicon (which is usually a great source) jumped to a hasty conclusion there, just because Flitwick is one of the "main teachers" and seems to like learning and wisdom. It definitely doesn´t say anywhere in canon who´s the head of Ravenclaw.


The Lexicon based that "fact" on an interview with J.K. Rowling in 2000 where someone asked her who was head of Ravenclaw and she said it was Flitwick.

So the accuracy depends largely on what you consider to be "canon." Are only the books canon? I would tend to accept anything JKR says as canon, but she has on occasion contradicted herself or said something and then changed it.


In PS/SS, Hermione says she "heard Dumbledore himself was in Gryffindor." :)

[Lord Schaudt]

I think we all agree on Phineas as being in Slytherin, in fact prolly we can place all of Sirius's relatives not blasted off the portrait as being in slytherin

[Elwen]

Well, of course why should Sirius not have been in Slytherin? If we think that people from other houses can turn out bad (even if it does not amount to becoming death eaters) why can't it be the other way?

I know, everything speaks for Sirius being Gryffindor - it seems that it is even suspicious if people from different houses talk to each other too much during meal times, so good friends nearly have to be in the same house.


But I find thois whole thing about Slytherins being so bad very disturbing. It just doesn't fit with the subtlety JKR's world displays in other respects.


Elwen

[xKatiexBellx]

Posted by Pippin
What about "There was no witch or wizard went bad that wasn´t in Slytherin" (Hagrid in HP PS)?

Very true, but they didn't only have to be Slytherins to be bad. Hagrid's just saying that if you go into Slytherin, you're most likely to turn out bad... some of Voldemorts Death Eaters might have joined so they could keep their lives if he was going to kill him...

[Lord Schaudt]

Really i refuse to believe that Barty Croch Junior was in Slytherin!

[lizz]

Originally posted by Elwen



But I find thois whole thing about Slytherins being so bad very disturbing. It just doesn't fit with the subtlety JKR's world displays in other respects.




thats why I am hoping for a surprise there. We see Slytherin from Harrys point of view, first thing he hears is Hagrid telling him every bad wizard was in slytherin, then rons prejudices on the train and Malfoy, he already dislikes praising and being sorted into Slytherin. And snape is head of Slytherin and they diskike each other at first view. On his first evening it says: maybe he was already prejudized but they seemed unpleasant to him.
For the behaviour of the rest of the school is seems like there is an old traditional gryffindor/Slytherin competetion and the other houses prefer Gryffindor but that doesnt make slytherin bad. And its like you said. Being brave doesnt mean being good.
And we know only Malfoy and his friends and the Slytherin Quiddich team.

And like Dumbledore said: its about the choices. Harry was placed in Gryffindor because he wanted to and problay Hermione and the whole Weasley family too. And Malfoy wanted to be in slytherin and was put there.

[Lord Schaudt]

Phineas Nigellus was in Slytherin, his picture in dumbldores room has a SLytherin banner in the background

[Seriphus]

What about "There was no witch or wizard went bad that wasn´t in Slytherin" (Hagrid in HP PS)? Well there's this from CoS (The Whomping Willow):

For a few horrible seconds he had feared that the hat was going to put him in Slytherin, the house that had turned out more dark witches and wizards than any other.

I agree with Quirrell being in Ravenclaw. He doesn't seem 'evil', more corrupted by 'evil', although his 'There is no good and evil, there is only power, and those too weak to seek it...' sounds more Slytherin-style.

[Lord Schaudt]

True, he was corrupted, but did not start of evil.

But maybe he was a canidate for Hufflepuff, i mean he was kinda so procupied with learning he failed to notcie a little thing like him learning from Voldie

[Seriphus]

Yes, I think you could argue it either way. He certainly shows loyalty to Voldemort by carrying out his every order.
You could also make a case for Gryffindor, that he was brave in letting Voldemort posess him (He must have known it would be dangerous), and then he tried to rob Gringots and kept Voldemort right under the nose of Albus Dumbledore, let alone attempting to kill Harry Potter in front of the whole school. I wouldn't put those down as the acts of a coward.

But Ravenclaw seems to fit his personality best. From what Hagrid said he sounded keen to learn and learnt a lot about Dark Arts out of books. He appears to be pretty sharp-witted (as opposed to hard-working), he's got Snape worked out (as much as Snape can be worked out) and he gets past the puzzles to the philosopher's/sorcerer's stone.

[Lord Schaudt]

LEtting Voldie posses him wasn't brave, it was fear. he was possesed after he failed. everything after that was simply his fear of Voldie

[Seriphus]

It's not the reason that I find brave, but the physical act of allowing Voldy to possess him, if you take my meaning. It's not something I imagine anyone allowing without a second thought. Quirrell could have done a Karkaroff and run away, but he didn't.
And that was because not everything he did was motivated through fear, but through his seeking power for himself.

[Lord Schaudt]

I don't think Voldie asked him permission, Voldie probably just told him to do whatever he had to do and Quirrel blindly obeyed