New HBP Trailer Out!

[lithorose]

There's a new Half-Blood Prince trailer out- focuses more on little Tom Riddle. It's pretty good.

I'll look for a link when I'm a little more lucid.;)

[Haldomere Banks]

Tehre are two here:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/harrypotterandthehalfbloodprince/

[Lanen]

Ok, have to admit that the 3a trailer was seriously interesting. :D

This outta be good.

[Telchar II]

Hi, all!

I liked that one. Especially the scene in the library: "But I am the chosen one," he smirks.

Hilarious.

[Lanen]

I liked that bit too - nice to see they're keeping the humour. And certainly Daniel Radcliffe is a better actor now, from what little one could see. I really am looking forward to this film. Ms. Rowling's publishers, I think, decided not to edit her later books - the discipline of having to pare such a tome down to one movie will help get rid of some of the - let's say, less interesting subplots.

[Haldomere Banks]

And maybe the last? The HD version has the July 17 release date, but it's been moved up to July 15.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/harrypotterandthehalfbloodprince/

Hjal

[Telchar II]

What do you think is the house in the midst of the circle of fire? Is it the Shrieking Shack? Is it the Burrow? Am rather puzzled about this.

Note also the shot of Ginny in front of the tapestry. On the tapestry is an image of a fenced unicorn -- a reference to virginity, no?

[Elwen]

That's the Burrow.

The added a scene...
in the middle of the film somewhere, I think it's as they are all at the Burro for Christmas, and that's where they are attacked at night and the burrow burns down.

This is to illustrate how dangerous the world out there is getting ... or something.

[Telchar II]

Huh? Wha . . . ?

They added a scene? It's not as if they didn't have enough ground to cover already . . . .

Plus, that scene duplicates two events in book 7.

Screenwriters . . . sheesh.

[Elwen]

Telchar - they have to build tension. They can't expect the audience to know what will happen in book 7. I don't see how that would work!

It's not as if there is enough stuff in the book that really should be cut anyway.

[Lanen]

Hmmm - wonder if the screenwriters would consider, with all the Snape stuff in HBP, letting out a bit more of the story than JKR did and getting us a bit more on-side with Snape. I think she missed a trick keeping him as the oh-so-obvious baddie for so long. Nice grey areas are so much more intriguing.

[Elwen]

hmmmm.... I always thoight that movie Snape is never quite so villainous as book Snape, perhaps only because we can watch and interpret Rickman's interpretation (informed from the beginning by JKR) on film, while in the books we are hostage to harry's own biased, angry interpretation. :)

[Telchar II]

Goes down in history for this role.

"Page three hundred and ninety four!"

Telchar II nearly dies laughing, every time.

[Irys]

With this added burning down the Burrow scene, how is that going to change what happens in the next movies? Will they even have the wedding? or will it be a different place. The trio setting up how to keep their families safe (the ghoul and all), DD's will, and Ginny's birthday present scenes would have to be somewhere else... almost the entire first 150 pages.

I don't mind them cutting down the wedding or even cutting it out and having the fall of the Ministry announcement happen somewhere else, but if there are two movies (and here's hoping they cut out a lot of the annoying wandering trio bit), why destroy the Burrow, the only happy place Harry has left, when it's a big location of the first half of the book? Shell Cottage seems too small for a good substitute.

Unless they just rebuild the Burrow, which makes all this moot...

[Elwen]

Iris,

Good question. I don't think we know! Since they have already shot the exteriors of Shell Cottage we can say that the only person (apart from the various visitors) we saw there was bill Weasley - not even Fleur. I think if the Weasleys were shown as living there they'd have been part of that - although that's not 100% conclusive.

We also know that some sort of festivities take place when the trio apparates to Charing Crtoss Road (Picadilly in the film) - in the scenes shot there recently they are all dressed up. This would not tell us all that much with Hermione, but even Ron is dressed up, so it isn't a mere birthday party, I'd say.

[Irys]

Well, I looked around a bit and now have seen the Shell Cottage and trio dressed up scenes, and I'm guessing that Shell isn't the new Burrow and the wedding must be in. I also saw a mention that the Burrow isn't totally burned down, even though it looks like it would be from the trailers. Sooo, I'm gonna guess that the Burrow is salvageable. Maybe the big cleaning they do in DH won't be just regular cleaning but getting the Burrow hack in livable shape.

BTW, there's a possibility I'll get to screen HBP a couple days early (my cinema connections). Am sooo excited!

[Elwen]

Wow!! Will you give us a review? :)

[Hugh Kenrick]

The changes are okay I guess, the trend towards making everything as fast an exciting as possible is a constant irritant to me, as they choose action over story, but we can only wait and see.

From my own experience, they've made a lot of changes along the way, that they now have to resolve somehow, as there's no 'supporting' book passages to justify it. For example, will they do more with Kreacher, Dobby, etc? The way that resolves in book 7 will seem forced. I suppose they can 'save' them in book 7 different ways.

The more sticks you pick up, the harder it is to keep from moving other sticks out of position. I've had that experience with doing re-writes on plays. Change one line, and you change intent.

I'm sure they make the hard choices with good discussion and thought. I guess because 95% of the younger fans already know the ending all the way through Book 7, they have to throw in a twist or two.

[Melkor]

Hugh, glad to see you finally made it over the fence so to speak.

[Reba]

/\ That was actually me having an identity crisis :o
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Good to see you Hugh!

[Hugh Kenrick]

/\ That was actually me having an identity crisis :o
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Good to see you Hugh!

Thanks. Good to be 'alive' on the HP side.:wave:

I need to take some time, and do a scene by scene screencap of the latest trailer, and see if we can play "guess the scene" that they are showing us.

[Elwen]

:clap:

Great to see you here, Hugh! :yay:


Well, we can already say that Dobby's death at Shell Cottage will be shown in DH - although we don't know whether DH1 and DH2.

The question is whether that has an impact on Kreacher (will they conflate Kreacher and Dobby to avoid having to re-introduce too many characters?), or whether it makes a difference to what they'll be doing in HBP.


There will have to be some changes, just to streamline the story - one change we know about is the 'burrow attack' scene somehwere in the middle of the film. Although I am not sure what they'll do with the burrow after it burns down. They might just rebuild it 'magically'...

[Hugh Kenrick]

Yes, good point. I guess it doesn't really matter for DH1 & 2, either, as the trio spends most of the book on the run anyway, and wouldn't go there for any reason.

I was a little disappointed that they wouldn't be doing the Minister of Magic visits the Prime Minister as a scene somewhere. It's not an action-packed introduction, so I'm sure that's why they scrapped it, but it would have been really fun to see the confluence of the two worlds. It does seem that the muggle world is getting a taste of what's to come to judge from the trailer.

[Elwen]

Yes, I think they replaced the 'Other Minister' chapter by an action-packed scene that's more Michael Bay than Yes Minister.

The bits we have seen look pretty good, but I am curious how it is going to play. In a way, I would have liked to read more about the outside world in HBP, so I think it might work in the film to show more.

[Lanen]

In a way, I would have liked to read more about the outside world in NBP, so I think it might work in the film to show more.

I can see where you are coming from, Elwen, but that's one thing I think JKR got absolutely right.

Sure, we as muggles are more curious about how the magical world is impacting our own, but - let's face it, the story is about Harry and the revolution happening in his world. I think JKR keeping the real world at arm's length is a very good idea. If you let too much of the real world in, the illusion can so easily be broken... So many of the muggles are caricatures, in any case. Best leave it at that, I think.

[Hugh Kenrick]

Hmmm, right, which is why the 'Yes, Minister' scene is the narrowest of windows through which we glimpse the magical world, and maintain the magical world reality. But yes, Lanen, she did limit it correctly, great point.

[Elwen]

I can see where you are coming from, Elwen, but that's one thing I think JKR got absolutely right.

Sure, we as muggles are more curious about how the magical world is impacting our own, but - let's face it, the story is about Harry and the revolution happening in his world. I think JKR keeping the real world at arm's length is a very good idea. If you let too much of the real world in, the illusion can so easily be broken... So many of the muggles are caricatures, in any case. Best leave it at that, I think.

I can see your point.

I guess I am a political junkie, and less happy with romantic comedy. OOTP has its faults (LENGTHY bits that needed serious editing), but it is a very good political thriller, without ever leaving Harry. At the end we had Sirius' death and Voldemort revealed.

After that, HBP was absolutely FRUSTRATING to me. I couldn't believe for a moment that all the outside influence on Harry just stops, and that he didn't try hard to find out a lot more about what was going on.

Instead we got all that teenage romance. I wanted to tear my hair out!!! Yes, harry has those intersts, too.... but somehow, shutting out the outside world again, after it had started to intrude on harry's life in OOTP just seemed wrong. it didn't make logical sense to me.

[Pearl]

I can see your point.

I guess I am a political junkie, and less happy with romantic comedy. OOTP has its faults (LENGTHY bits that needed serious editing), but it is a very good political thriller, without ever leaving Harry. At the end we had Sirius' death and Voldemort revealed.

Totally agree. OotP's really grown on me -- and I prefer it to HBP.

Instead we got all that teenage romance. I wanted to tear my hair out!!! Yes, harry has those intersts, too.... but somehow, shutting out the outside world again, after it had started to intrude on harry's life in OOTP just seemed wrong. it didn't make logical sense to me.

But Elwen! All that shipper stuff just makes HP so ... EPIC. ;)

*sorry, couldn't resist* :jester:

:D

[Elwen]

Yeah well. Epic isn't eeeepic, though. So I am not impressed. ;)

Only eeeepic is really epic, if you know what I mean! ;)